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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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I found these interesting web pages after reading a Time magazine. I wonder if it works. Anyone else read anything about water-powered cars? The Hydrogen Booster would be nice to have...

http://www.hydrogen-boost.com/
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/hydrobooster.html
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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The main problem with these ideas is in the basic chemistry. In order to make hydrogen from water you must use electrical current. The process uses a certain amount of power. If you were to react the hydrogen and oxygen created in the electrolosis process in a perfect manner (i.e. no heat produced) you would merely recover that power.

If you were to simply burn the hydrogen and oxygen in the engine as that suggests you would actually be wasting energy. It would drain your battery which in turn would make your alternator pull more power off the engine. The result would be a reduction in gas mileage.

This is why fuel cells are not the solution to all of our problems. You hear people say "Hey, we can make Hydrogen from water, water is free right?". Unfourtunately the only way to accomplish this is to pass electrical current through the water. So, where do you get the electricity? Add this to the fact that the water-to-hydrogen-to-fuel cell-to-water process is, at best, a battery you still have the overriding problem of where to get the electricity.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Yup, zimmG35 is correct. In order to make hydrogen fuel cells you need electricity to seperate out the hydrogen, thus defeating the purpose of using the cells in the first place. What would be extremely beneficial is if we could use renewable energy sources (wind, solar etc) to create the fuel cells. I just wrote a 13 page thesis paper on global warming, so trust me
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmG35
The main problem with these ideas is in the basic chemistry. In order to make hydrogen from water you must use electrical current. The process uses a certain amount of power. If you were to react the hydrogen and oxygen created in the electrolosis process in a perfect manner (i.e. no heat produced) you would merely recover that power.

If you were to simply burn the hydrogen and oxygen in the engine as that suggests you would actually be wasting energy. It would drain your battery which in turn would make your alternator pull more power off the engine. The result would be a reduction in gas mileage.

This is why fuel cells are not the solution to all of our problems. You hear people say "Hey, we can make Hydrogen from water, water is free right?". Unfourtunately the only way to accomplish this is to pass electrical current through the water. So, where do you get the electricity? Add this to the fact that the water-to-hydrogen-to-fuel cell-to-water process is, at best, a battery you still have the overriding problem of where to get the electricity.


uhhhh yeaaa he's right . LoL wow im sooo jealous thats freqan great. PLEASE change your name to "BillNyetheScienceguy"
 
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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yea i agree, lets just develop cold fusion :-) or just use nuclear power directly and not heating water to spin stuff, just directly harness the electricity.
 
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