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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:33 AM
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The R4 software ROCKS!!!

OK all - I have some news and updates for ya!!

I don't have dyno's to show yet - I went to the dyno Friday - and there were some issues with it, so we couldn't get done what we wanted.

ON THE OTHER HAND - I have become a pro on the R4 software and tuning the car. The software and what the box reads and monitors from the car allows you to tune the car without a dyno - though you won't know your HP and TQ - but you can easily max out your performance without the Dyno.

With the laptop hooked up, I downloaded the stock Vortech fuel and timing maps for backup purposes. One thing I did get from the Dyno were good A/F readings, so I used that knowledge to my advantage, as I don't have a wideband and gauge installed at the moment.

With the software you are able to adjust timing and fuel on 2 separate maps, and monitor manifold pressures and boost as well. The system monitors for ping and knock so things are really safe there too.

A few days before the Friday Dyno trip - we ran the car against an RS6 Audi - you know Biturbo 500HP monster car - well, some what kept up with it, but the Audi would well walk away in 3rd and so on.

Well - the day of the dyno - that Audi got some love and affection from Fast Intentions in the exhaust arena - only making it faster and better.

My car - got a first level tune by me with my Apexi - and gained about 42HP on the dyno, if it was even reading OK from that perspective at all...all I know is, the car did feel better.

So - the Audi and my G raced again. My car beat it and walked away from it this time. The Audi, after several runs, could not keep up or catch me - even from rolling start runs.

NOW - a few days later - with R4 software in hand and a little tinkering - it's a whole new car since Friday. The car is ranging from 8.9 - 10.2lbs. of boost and is just a damn hot rocket.

It looses traction going into 2nd, 3rd and at the mid of 4th too. 1st is controllable, but the 295/30/19 PS2's work really well when a bit warm. The car is at least 40-60HP faster than Friday and the torque down low is really beefy now too.

We will be getting the car on a new dyno this week...so stay tuned.

I'm tossing the Apexi SAFCII - the FTC and R4 software does it all. Side by side with the UTEC and it's capabilities - there is no reason to spend another dollar. If I bought a tuner kit - different story, of course - but you may as well save the dough....

Rick
 
Old Sep 4, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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Sounding good!
 
Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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1 thing I dont get is u seem to have a lot of breathing mods so how are u able to boost 10.2lbs? Usually ppl with a lot of mods see less psi but increase in hp/tq bc there is less back pressure.

What kind of numbers were u seeing on the dyno on friday when u can 42hp on the dyno?
 
Old Sep 4, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_pharmD
1 thing I dont get is u seem to have a lot of breathing mods so how are u able to boost 10.2lbs? Usually ppl with a lot of mods see less psi but increase in hp/tq bc there is less back pressure.

What kind of numbers were u seeing on the dyno on friday when u can 42hp on the dyno?
I can only attribute the boost to the 3.12 pulley and the larger pulleys in place for the accessories - which will give more boost as well. They are also light weight pulleys.

The numbers were real low - as the dyno was malfunctioning and is in need of calibration - so I'm not quoting them. It was calibrated to show consistency for our needs at the time, though the actuals were not correct, the gains shown were likely close for the 42 HP. Again, our needs were for safety reasons as the car had not yet been monitored since install.

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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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What other breathing mods do you have besides full exhaust/test pipes? Try to get the dyno on a dyno dynamics if you can.
 
Old Sep 4, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_K
What other breathing mods do you have besides full exhaust/test pipes? Try to get the dyno on a dyno dynamics if you can.
ummm..heads, cams, bottom end, etc etc etc...just read more of this thread below...
 

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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i've probably totally missed this somewhere, but where are you located?
Congrats on the build!!
 

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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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i've probably totally missed this somewhere, but where are you located?
Congrats on the build!!
SoCal - San Fernando Valley...
 
Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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SO Rich....when did SplitSecond add knock sensors to the SS box ?
Listening to you discribe how you tuned your car really makes me LMAO.
You really have no idea what you are talking about . I have been tuning my Vortech for three years now and there isnt any knock sensors and you say the Utech has nothing over the R4 and the SS box ?


With the software you are able to adjust timing and fuel on 2 separate maps, and monitor manifold pressures and boost as well. The system monitors for ping and knock so things are really safe there too.


A few days before the Friday Dyno trip - we ran the car against an RS6 Audi - you know Biturbo 500HP monster car - well, some what kept up with it, but the Audi would well walk away in 3rd and so on.



So - the Audi and my G raced again. My car beat it and walked away from it this time. The Audi, after several runs, could not keep up or catch me - even from rolling start runs.



The poop keeps getting deeper
 
Old Dec 17, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Hey Bill..uh..BOOGER...

Just go away already...stalker...your done now!

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