which guages are necessary?
which guages are necessary?
I am looking for some guages to install but i dont know which ones. As of now, i am a newb about FI. I am not sure whether i should get digital guages or the needle guages. Can anyone tell me which one is cheaper? I looked in the marketplace and there seem to be a lot of guages available. Ive been looking at the defi guages in amber to match the interior of the G. Which ones are neccesary in an FI G? I know i need boost and oil temp, but i dont know what else. Which guages are vital? help!
Boost and fuel pressure are the must have's. Oil pressure is next.
If you are self tuning - wideband, otherwise your probably good.
If you have room in your installation location - get mechanical gauges - otherwise if space is tight, get the electronic gauges. I personally like the needle gauges - AutoMeter Nexus rocks!
Rick
If you are self tuning - wideband, otherwise your probably good.
If you have room in your installation location - get mechanical gauges - otherwise if space is tight, get the electronic gauges. I personally like the needle gauges - AutoMeter Nexus rocks!
Rick
like rookie said, the boost and a True Wideband gauge (such as the Innovate Motorsports set up http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products.php , or depending upon which Engine Management you have, the companies have wideband kits for their particular setup),
after those two, I would go with Oil Temp, then Oil Pressure and/or Water Temp and/or Fuel Pressure(you could use a mechanical guage in the engine compartment for tuning) and/or EGT. Having an EGT is kinda an older idea from a time when the good Wideband A/F gauges were not readily available and much more expensive than they are now.
So I would put the Oil Temp gauge as a more important than EGT (you need to know the Actual ~temperature your engine's running at), behind the obvious Boost guage and Wideband A/F guage.
after those two, I would go with Oil Temp, then Oil Pressure and/or Water Temp and/or Fuel Pressure(you could use a mechanical guage in the engine compartment for tuning) and/or EGT. Having an EGT is kinda an older idea from a time when the good Wideband A/F gauges were not readily available and much more expensive than they are now.
So I would put the Oil Temp gauge as a more important than EGT (you need to know the Actual ~temperature your engine's running at), behind the obvious Boost guage and Wideband A/F guage.
Last edited by NoLimit; Oct 19, 2006 at 01:23 AM.
I'll get flack for this but I drove my G for 17,500 miles with a properly tuned Vortech and never had one gauge...the new owner still hasn't installed any and the tunes been checked twice and hasn't changed. The reality is, by the time you see your AF go to 16:1, you've already detinated your motor. If anything, I'd say Fuel Pressure and Oil Pressure since they are tapped during installation.
Let the flaming begin...oh, the irony...flaming a firefighter
Let the flaming begin...oh, the irony...flaming a firefighter
for a supercharger, IMO the order from most important to least important are:
A/F - if A/F is off, you could be hurting your engine and you'd never know
boost - to verify that there's no leaks, or that something isn't working right
fuel pressure - if your fuel pressure becomes low under boost, your engine will soon be toast
oil pressure - if you can't see that you're possibly low on oil, you're screwed. Also helps indicate how hot the oil is
oil temp - helps you to know how your your engine actually is. If it starts getting a bit too hot, you know you should probably take it easy for a bit
coolant temp - stock coolant temp gauge is worthless really, more like an on/off gauge and not very accurate. More important on a water cooled turbo kit like APS, but gives you another indication of how hot the engine is
EGT - gives you an idea of how hard your engine is working, and to some degree what your A/F is. Not super useful in practice though if you have oil temp and A/F gauges. I think of it mostly as a short term engine temp gauge
A/F - if A/F is off, you could be hurting your engine and you'd never know
boost - to verify that there's no leaks, or that something isn't working right
fuel pressure - if your fuel pressure becomes low under boost, your engine will soon be toast
oil pressure - if you can't see that you're possibly low on oil, you're screwed. Also helps indicate how hot the oil is
oil temp - helps you to know how your your engine actually is. If it starts getting a bit too hot, you know you should probably take it easy for a bit
coolant temp - stock coolant temp gauge is worthless really, more like an on/off gauge and not very accurate. More important on a water cooled turbo kit like APS, but gives you another indication of how hot the engine is
EGT - gives you an idea of how hard your engine is working, and to some degree what your A/F is. Not super useful in practice though if you have oil temp and A/F gauges. I think of it mostly as a short term engine temp gauge
Last edited by sentry65; Oct 23, 2006 at 02:22 PM.
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Originally Posted by NoLimit
Having an EGT is kinda an older idea from a time when the good Wideband A/F gauges were not readily available and much more expensive than they are now.


I think it's a good idea to have bothe EGT and A:F gauges.
I always thought it is important to have a A/F gauge because if you don't have a temperature based ECU (like the FCon), your A/F is most likely to change during temperature or season changes. Also, I think boost gauge is very important. Those two are my priorities but I would love to have a fuel pressure and EGT.



