Its a big step into the dark side...let us warn you now BOOST is a drug and there is no turning back.

Ive been running the ATI- Procharger now for about 30k miles on my 70k mile motor and no problems knock on wood. Im not running the stock setup though. I love the unit except for the noise at times and that its super dirty. I know a few good friends who have the APS kits and they seem to love them and so do I. They look like a great designed system and put out amazing numbers with very few issues.

If there is a guy to listen to it's "G352NV" I dont know the guy personally but I follow his posts and know he has plenty of experience. I would say go with an APS single or TT system and you will be more than happy. Its so quite and makes for a great sleeper.

 

if reliability is key, you want a kit with all components for a flawless forced induction system. with that in mind, i say go for the APS TT kit.

perhaps i am biased because i own one... but my experiences speak for itself. the kit comes with items (in my own personal opinion) that are needed for a safe 100-150 rwhp increase. namely, the APS comes with a pressurized fuel return system, along with unichip which helps with moderate fine tuning, which are good up to 450 rwhp with stock compression... that's more than enough for your goal. not to mention, how can you NOT love garrett dual ball bearing turbos?

don't get me wrong here: every kit that you've mentioned are great kits! there are many who are producing monster numbers with the aforementioned respective companies, however you may want to purchase some extra items (CJ or AAM fuel return system) to be on the safe side. but, with APS, it's complete out of the box... and that's why i like it.

 

Guys the info is great...And I really would like to keep this dialog going...My question for everyone who said APS is this...You've all 3 said to go with APS TT...Do you feel the same about the APS ST? Does that kit come as complete? I would think so, but I haven't seen or had any experience with it...Wouldn't the APS ST be more in the price range I was looking for?

Also I think one of you may have touched on it...Whats the sound like with the APS? At both Idle and full boost...Im trying to stay away from anything thats loud and whiney at idle...O and if there is ANYTHING that you'd do differently to make your original purchase of the APS better then please let me know now...

PearlG - Appreciate the heads up man...Ill head down there to talk to those guys...So far Im being swayed to the APS side but with good reason...However, I would like to take a look at Turbonectics because that kit looks clean...

 

If you can get the Greddy, I would go with it. Too much lag with the TN and Vortech for my taste.

 

With the aps tt the car is just like stock, until you hear the BOV. The aps st kit is junk. Go to my350z and do a search, nothing but problems.
One other thing about the greddy. You loose your front impact brace.

 

Perfect thanks...I was actually just at my350z right before I read your post...I saw how many people were complaining about the APS ST...How is it a company can make a sick TT kit but make a **** poor ST kit...And I like that it sounds stock at idle...And then the beauty of the BOV...

 

it all depends on how much money you want to spend. if you have alot to spend, go greddy and do all the extras.

 

If you have that much money buy the APS extreme kit. It comes with the extreme fuel system 3in down pipes BIG bar and plate intercooler and bigger turbo's. I know its hard for you guys to get your head around but the greddy sux! I know it also sounds like Im just pro APS but APS has their shiet togeather.
If your a show guy lets not all forget what system has polished pipes at no extra cost.

 

http://www.injectedperformance.com/V...t.aspx?ID=4439
Street price is around 8500.00 add EM for about 1k. 9500.00 you have a bad **** system.

 

If he only wants 100 more hp, I think the TN or vortec is just fine. The APS TT kit is like 3k more than a TN kit. If a few hundred more rpms of lag (ST vs TT) bothers somebody that much, then they must be loaded.

Unless you want more power, I wouldn't go with twins. But then again this comming from a guy who is going from ST to TT for more power..... APS TT is the cleanest kit, but open wastegate dumps are fun!

 

APS TT is about 2k more, APS 7300.00 TN 5300.00 . TN has no EM, add 1000.00 for that. If you can get past the belt and noise. The Vortech is the best bang for the buck price wise.
I cant speak for the TN kit but when I had the Vortech the lag was crazy! I remember flooring the car in first and as I hit about 4k the wheels would break free and spin until redline. Now Im not loaded but that was crazy lag. With my APS kit If I punch it I spin right away until I shift again. Its spot on, like right now! Ive seen TN dyno's and they're not that bad. But if you buy the kit you might as well get ready for 1000.00 more for EM. Sure you can run the reflash but you also want piece of mind. So now your up to 6300.00 1000.00 less then the TT kit. In the FI world 1000.00 is NOTHING!
Ive said more then enough about this subjuct and Im sure some of you would wish I would stop So Ill be done with it. I think there are enough posts in this topic for the OP to decide whats best. Enjoy FI, its a TON of fun in this car!

 

You've been a HUGE help....And I can never grow tired of anyone who is experienced with the setups....Some people go around throwing information which they've "heard" or "read" on a forum...I enjoy getting the info directly from someone who's been there and done that...If its ok with you I may come your way with a pm or two in the future...

A special thanks to everyone...Im still open to anything and Ill listen to any poster with good information...This stuff never gets old, especially to someone who is just planning on joining the FI family...

 

He's totally correct about the APS TT kit. Even though I experienced a blown motor with this kit, I would still buy it all over again. The key, if you're going to keep a stock motor, is to keep the boost at no more than 8.5psi or 380whp or less. This will keep you at safe levels based on what APS has stated. If you're worried about that level of whp, detune it even more to 7psi. Then save up for a built motor, which will save you a lot of $$$$ over blowing it first, and turn up the boost for even more fun.

 

STAY AWAY from TN not but problems with it.... If you spend the money go APS if not go Vortech or ATI. Im happy with my ATI but I paid almost nothing for it thanks to people I know. If I had the 8-10k I would have done APS.... Nothing is better than the feel of the turbo torque Boost=

 

In my opinion (from what I have been researching), TN kit is the best bang for the money. First of all it comes with all you need (beside one thing that comes with, but I would switch out, which is the reflash. It would probably better to go with an EMS and get it tuned), you can now get Stage 1.5 which comes pretuned with EMS and everything. You can do the installition yourself if you know what your doing (aka you don't need $10k worth of tools and stuff to do the install). Even if you take it to someone to install it, the install is a lot cheaper vs other FI kits, since you don't have to remove the headers and everything is a bolt-on.


Good Luck


Just my .02cents.


Mahdi