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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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i wouldn't call my car a daily driver, and I don't put nearly as many miles on it as triji, but I really think you could daily drive my car just fine with the 2.87 pulley - it's not like everytime I get in my car I run it hard to redline a whole bunch and beat the snot out of it.

The power even below 4500 rpms really isn't too bad on my car



what I meant when I said good maintenance does not mean getting oil changed every 3k miles and that's it. I meant actually checking your own oil every couple weeks or so and adding oil as needed. Not just oil, but coolant levels too and adding distilled water as needed. Also just checking things over in the engine bay and making sure nothing is coming loose etc. Also a lot of times as I get about 2 minutes away from parking and have notice my oil temps are above 180, I'll turn the heater on full blast and roll the windows down until I'm parked to help prevent heatsoak from happening. Also I absolutely do not push the car hard until the oil temp gauge is showing around at least 140 degrees or so - gotta be over 100. Sometimes in the winter depending on how cold it is, it might be 15 minutes before I feel the car is warm enough for a workout

and when I say "good cooling" a different thermostat really won't do much with aiding overall cooling. I mean stuff like oil cooler, vented hood, bigger radiator, water injection, bigger oil pan with heat fins etc
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Damn, soo much work when you have a supercharger on the car.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Sentry, you back in town?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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not until probably saturday, just got to CA today


Originally Posted by GThIrtYFiZle
Damn, soo much work when you have a supercharger on the car.
normally it really isn't a huge amount more maintenance than the NA car, but when you're pushing your block with the 2.87 pulley I'm not gonna let it blow up because I was lazy or cheap
 

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Old Apr 17, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Ok.... GL out there.

I had to work all weekend, I'll give ya a call Sat afternoon. I have next weekend off.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
not until probably saturday, just got to CA today




normally it really isn't a huge amount more maintenance than the NA car, but when you're pushing your block with the 2.87 pulley I'm not gonna let it blow up because I was lazy or cheap
I know if you add meth, it acts like race gas and makes the intake charge cooler and also give you more power. But, do you think it would be safe with around 440whp? I think 2.87 alone would net around 420whp on average and if you add meth you would get around 440whp. Is that 440whp on meth equivalent to 400whp on just the 2.87 on pump alone in terms of safety? Do you understand what I mean?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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I dunno, you don't just suddenly get 40whp just by adding water/meth injection

Usually you gain power by adding more aggressive timing, but you don't have to add timing. You can just use it as a safety measure. Using WI will lower EGT and cylinder chamber temps which can really help out during long hard sessions

IMO it's been a great thing so far and very cheap to buy methanol and easy to make sure the water tank stays full

running 101 unleaded race gas can also slightly lower cylinder temps because it burns a little cooler than normal pump gas.

IMO the main thing is avoiding detonation at any cost especially when you start getting closer to approaching the edge of what the stock block can hold
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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But unlike running 101, you can't just add meth. injection without a specific tune for it, correct? I usually see people getting higher numbers with meth/alky injection than without it, especially on the evo forums. Maybe, since its a bit safer, they run more aggressive timing/fuel curve?
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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well you should always tune with it if you're going to use it, but you can be conservative with the tune
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Thanks guys for all the info. As it stands right now I should be picking up my 3.12 pulley tomorrow and ordering my fuel return today. Also now, if I can sell my nitrous kit soon, I am going to try and pick up that water/meth to run with the 3.12.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SKYLINE_GT
Thanks guys for all the info. As it stands right now I should be picking up my 3.12 pulley tomorrow and ordering my fuel return today. Also now, if I can sell my nitrous kit soon, I am going to try and pick up that water/meth to run with the 3.12.

with the 3.12 pulley u dont need the fuel return line (fmu/ pump is fine) and water meth (pe 30cc is perfect). Thats going over board bc at most u will get is 400hp and thats if u have other breathing mods.

If u do 2.87, then yes return line, bigger injectors - meth, and internals.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Well right now I have 1/2" spacer, hks exausht. Still need to install the 440cc injectors. And its AAM's basic fuel return kit.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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i have 3.12, borla exhaust, mrev2+ with spacers, headers, and hi flow cats and i'm running only fmu, intank pump, 380cc injectors and greddy EU with idle raised to 950 rpm and I have no problem with it being lean up top.

As mention before, u wont need it bc i doubt u will hit over 400hp with 3.12 pulley.
 
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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I am currently running a 3.12 pulley and am hitting 379hp on a dyno dynamics... From what I hear that would be a bit over 400 on a dyno jet... I am going to upgrade to the 2.87 or 2.9 (non slip pulley) on stock internals.
 
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