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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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I have a question about the Greddy IC for the G. Has any one actually measured the efficiency of it with the stock G bumper? Like actually measured before IC and after IC temps?

The reason I ask is because I am considering doing a custom dual IC set up. The SFR dual IC kit at $1700 is a bit too much and JWT wont sell theirs separately. I can have Bell Intercoolers custom make two 4.5" thick x 5.1" tall x 12" long (core size) ICs that will fit perfectly in front of the lower air intakes for ~900 shipped. According to Gerhard at Bell the ICs would be sufficient for under 430whp. Then I would need to do the IC pipe fab myself, I can weld but not so good. I figure an few mandrel bent parts and a bunch of couplers would put me another few hundred in the hole before its over. So if the Greddy IC with the stock bumper is efficient enough for 400whp then its actually worth it to just go that route.

And a big question I have is does the bumper fit back with the IC kit or must you leave it off? The SFR and my custom idea leave the bumper in place.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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The Greddy requires you to remove the bumper. Some people have cut theirs to fit which is what I plan to do one of these days.

I would say that the Greddy IC is efficient to 400whp even with the stock bumper. There are a few guys around here who have done it. One of them was done at AAM and they have pics on their web site. Plus you may decide to upgrade your front end down the line and the Greddy is an awesome part.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Yup, my thoughts exactly. Are their any bumpers for the 06's yet?

So how do you cut it? Do you cut the whole middle section between the mounting points out or just the inner parts of it?

Oh and you you have any pics or details on what was done to the IC pipe that was a tight fit on the sway bar?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
Yup, my thoughts exactly. Are their any bumpers for the 06's yet?

So how do you cut it? Do you cut the whole middle section between the mounting points out or just the inner parts of it?

Oh and you you have any pics or details on what was done to the IC pipe that was a tight fit on the sway bar?
Depending on what you want to do down the road with your car will make or break your decision. I would suggest buying the Greddy TT by itself and getting the IC custom made. You'll spend the same amount, roughly, but it will be tailored made to your needs, be it a horixontal twin-tank setup, or a vertical setup.

One of MY biggest concers with the Greddy IC is that you lose your crash bar. I just wasn't happy with that. I would hate to have serious damage to my built engine or other engine bay components that could have been possibly prevented had I had a crash bar. Knock on wood
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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You can modify your crash bar to fit again or have a tubular one made.

A custom IC will run you quite a bit more than getting the Greddy one with the kit.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MardiGrasMax
Yup, my thoughts exactly. Are their any bumpers for the 06's yet?

So how do you cut it? Do you cut the whole middle section between the mounting points out or just the inner parts of it?

Oh and you you have any pics or details on what was done to the IC pipe that was a tight fit on the sway bar?


Sorry, I just noticed you have a sedan.
No, there are not any other front ends for the 05/06 sedan right now. You can have Klumzyee make you a custom one for a decent price but here is where you need to think about it. You could do the SFR IC for less than a custom front end and the Greddy IC together. QuadCam did his that way and it came out very nice.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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quick question

I have the 5/16 spacer and the Mrev2

once I get the TT, do those need to be removed?

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ttrank
You can modify your crash bar to fit again or have a tubular one made.

A custom IC will run you quite a bit more than getting the Greddy one with the kit.
mine was cheaper
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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quick question

I have the 5/16 spacer and the Mrev2

once I get the TT, do those need to be removed?

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No, you don't, but you might as well take it off and sell it. You won't need it.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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do not run the kit with the emanage blue. That unit was simply used to get the car started lol. You cannot properly tune the car with anything less than a UTEC IMO.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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do not run the kit with the emanage blue. That unit was simply used to get the car started lol. You cannot properly tune the car with anything less than a UTEC IMO.
No offense, but that's a typical Utec fanboy answer. The Ultimate is more than capable and has functionality such as controlling secondary injection, which I will be running on my car (Goodbye loopy idle). For part throttle control, the Utec uses MAF output modification and under boost you have to program the pulse width of every cell and ignition timing for every cell. It is programmed through a clunky serial terminal interface so it takes forever to make a single change.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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I am running the HKS FCON Vpro actually. Personally using the emanage ultimate was a waste of my time.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 617G
No offense, but that's a typical Utec fanboy answer. The Ultimate is more than capable and has functionality such as controlling secondary injection, which I will be running on my car (Goodbye loopy idle). For part throttle control, the Utec uses MAF output modification and under boost you have to program the pulse width of every cell and ignition timing for every cell. It is programmed through a clunky serial terminal interface so it takes forever to make a single change.


Sounds like you don't know much about the UTEC….

Some of the major pros are:
1) Plug and play. No more messy soldering or expensive add-on harnesses required.

2) Loopy-idle? My idle is perfect. The UTEC can add an offset when in ECU mode to compensate for larger injectors and a return system.

3) The UTEC takes full control over fuel and timing at a tuner defined point, such as 2psi and 2000rpm, and maintains control throughout the power band. No interference from the stock ECU can take place. Big con of the EB and EU.

The EU, on the other hand, takes the factory injector signal, and ignition signals, and adds or subtracts from them. So the tune is always at the mercy of whatever the stock ECU decides to do which was never designed for boost.

4) UTEC has Knock detection and feedback control which can save your engine.

5) UTEC also has over-boost cut (big help for TN guys without the dump tube or if you have a wastegate problem)


And that is an educated fatboy UTEC answer…
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark350GT
I am running the HKS FCON Vpro actually. Personally using the emanage ultimate was a waste of my time.

Can't talk any crap there.
The HKS is awesome, just too rich for my bank account!
 
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ttrank
Sounds like you don't know much about the UTEC….

Some of the major pros are:
1) Plug and play. No more messy soldering or expensive add-on harnesses required.

2) Loopy-idle? My idle is perfect. The UTEC can add an offset when in ECU mode to compensate for larger injectors and a return.

3) The UTEC takes full control over fuel and timing at a tuner defined point, such as 2psi and 2000rpm, and maintains control throughout the power band. No interference from the stock ECU can take place. Big con of the EB and EU.

The EU, on the other hand, takes the factory injector signal, and ignition signals, and adds or subtracts from them. So the tune is always at the mercy of whatever the stock ECU decides to do which was never designed for boost.

4) UTEC has Knock detection and feedback control which can save your engine.

5) UTEC also has over-boost cut (big help for TN guys without the dump tube or if you have a wastegate problem)


And that is an educated fatboy UTEC answer…
 
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