Do you guys feel that an expert (and I mean expert) Honda tuner/builder can tune a VQ motor with Vortech supercharger well? If yes why? and If no why? no assumptions please

 

I'm sure there's a learning curve from different engines. I would be most concerned about his familiarity with the tuning tools and if those tools function the same as they have on the other vehicles.

 

i see a tuner as someone who is familiar with the car and has done enough of them to trouble-shoot through problems. Im sure he knows the basics, but im sure you're going to want the specifics done to your car, just my opinion.

 

+1, im sure he will know most of the basics...but in terms of specifics, Honda and Infiniti are apples and oranges.

 

How so in regards to engine tuning?

 

as Alphamatt said, specifics.... to reiterate what he said, the guy can probably tune it fine but if you need specific numbers and settings I would guess he would need a reference or something.

Isn't that why there are tuner-specific shops that SPECIALIZE in certain models? I would trust the Nissan guy over a Honda guy with my G, wouldnt you think?

 

Well I am guessing he is a friend of yours. Because I would say that no VQ guy would just go and ask a Honda guy to tune his car. Moog, you sound like you know a good amount of G35's so you know this is a great honda tuner. I asumed all this.

I would have him tune your car to the best he can. Than take it to a great VQ guy to work his magic so you have one bad azz little car.

But thats just what I would do.
-AGThing1227

 

I know both Honda tuners and Nissan tuners. I'd like to know everyone's perspective on what differences there are from a tuning aspect. If all you can say is "they're different, don't do it" then it's not being constructive to the discussion at hand.

 

That is an incorrect assumption, as he is not a friend of mine.

The closest well known VQ tuner close to me is SGP, which is 4 hours away. I've spoken w/ Mark @ SGP on the phone before, and he is an awesome guy to deal with even though I've never done business with them.

 

First choice is find a shop that specialize on our car. Now Second choice if choice 1 is not an option then find the best tuner (Prefer Import Shop) that you can find and Expert on the EMS that you are using. Tuning is tuning so that wont be much of a problem. Now the gotcha is that some tuner like to tune on the Rich side and some a little leaner, same goes with tuning their timing.

You can go to any tuner and just give them some guidelines on how VQ Tuner like to run their timing and Fuel. For example Most VQ tuner like their A/F around 11.1-11.7 and no leaner than that. Also at mid boost (8psi) you dont want to run any higher than 16 on your timing from 5500+rpm (I have mine at 14) also at TQ Peak, you want your timing around 11-13. You tuner can go add and subtract from that base on how the car react or if there is no knock. Every thing that I said are based on Mid boost around 8psi and 93 octane gas. Hope this help.

 

Ok, Just thought you knew someone. Just wanted to help but you want to know differences as you stated above. Good luck man!
-AGThing1227

 

A well experienced tuner can tune any car.... its just a matter of knowing the unit he is tuning with.

Example:
Shawn Church tunes ALL cars and he knows most of the tuning units with his eyes closed.

Its more about the numbers on the charts that mean anything. All engines run off of fuel and air so knowing how to get the right mixture to achieve your goal is where the tuning come into play.Weather it be a go kart motor or a drag car.

Timing & Air/Fuel are the main issues to a good tune.

someone who goes on forums and reads pages and pages of input doesnt make them a tuner. Anyone can figure out the formulas that need to go in a tuning chart but that doesnt mean the engine is going to run perfect.

Thats like saying the sun is out today so its hot out. The sun comes out in the north pole too but it sure as hell aint hot out.

 

^^Good post!
-AGThing1227

 

It is really not that complicated. If you want your tuner to start from scratch then fine you have to know every little things like the VE table of an engine. When you buy an EMS then all of them comes with Base map, from there the tuner can just play with the A/F and timing and go from there. EMS company paid $$$ to get all the spec of an Engine and it's VE Table to develop a base map. So Yes there is a formula that you can use. I gave some base Idea on how VQ Tuner like their timing and A/F. People do Street Tunning all the time and trust me Street Tunning can get you very close to what you want. A dyno will only give you the edge if you want to fine tune your car coz you wont know if adding a couple of degrees of timing does really yield power.

If it wasnt for the Internet and reading Tuning Books and talking to Tuners out there then I wouldn't be able to do my own adjustment on my car. I don't car what people say, THERE IS NO ONE WHO WILL PUT MORE TIME IN YOUR CAR BUT YOUR OWN SELF. I'm not a Tuner and never advertised it, but I sure know my ABC or Basic thing to look for so I don't blow my Engine

 

You Have some great points there but not many unitscomewith a map installed I know my Greddy EU didnt. I couldnt agree with you more that no one will put more time into your car than you yourself.

I have done 99% of all my installs then put the car in the hands of a master tuner like Shawn Church and Blast Motoring. Both street tuned my car then put it on the dyno to fine tune and assure me that my tune was solid. With 100k miles and 75k miles of it boosted @ 408rwhp and over 30 track days I am content these guys are master tuners.

It does all come down to experience though and the more you tool with a car and unit the more you understand its strengths and weaknesses. So YES someone who tunes Honda's can tune a VQ. Its not rocket science at all but having that confidence that someone with 30+yrs of tuning did it instead of my best friend "Joe" whos read some books and forums and knows how to work a laptop and an excel chart. That just make me sleep better at night