Dissapointed with RWHP from Vortech Kit on '03 5AT
I made 219whp on a Mustang Dyno with all the breathing and exhaust mods . It made 319whp out of the box , running real rich . We tuned it up some and made 348whp on my 03 AT5 G35 .
At 6 or 7 psi , your short of the 7 to 8 psi it should be making . Your A/F is very rich . You can see the dip in power where the R4 software pulls a bunch of timing out all at once .
Look for boost leaks around the plenum if you have added a spacer or new plenum . This is hard to do because some leaks dont show up till your in boost and rpms are high . Your serp belts needs to be pretty dam tight so it doesnt slip in the upper rpm range . Have a good tuner that knows the R4 software tune the car . Its a simple tuner program , but has some tricks when up loading a tune the first time . Call Split Second if your tuner gets in a bind after loading a tune the first time .
At 6 or 7 psi , your short of the 7 to 8 psi it should be making . Your A/F is very rich . You can see the dip in power where the R4 software pulls a bunch of timing out all at once .
Look for boost leaks around the plenum if you have added a spacer or new plenum . This is hard to do because some leaks dont show up till your in boost and rpms are high . Your serp belts needs to be pretty dam tight so it doesnt slip in the upper rpm range . Have a good tuner that knows the R4 software tune the car . Its a simple tuner program , but has some tricks when up loading a tune the first time . Call Split Second if your tuner gets in a bind after loading a tune the first time .
Last edited by booger; Mar 5, 2008 at 03:14 PM.
You don't need new injectors, fuel pump, Engine Management, etc. On the stock pulley, the parts that are included with the kit are more than fine and reliable. All you need is a good tune. Out of the box, the EM is tuned to be super rich to pass CARB. Also, checking for leaks is also a good idea. Make sure all bolts are nice and tight.
Originally Posted by Dan_K
You don't need new injectors, fuel pump, Engine Management, etc. On the stock pulley, the parts that are included with the kit are more than fine and reliable. All you need is a good tune. Out of the box, the EM is tuned to be super rich to pass CARB. Also, checking for leaks is also a good idea. Make sure all bolts are nice and tight.
On a 03 AT5 car . The stock kit is good for even the 3.12 pulley and I think you could get away with putting on the 2.87 .
The tune is super rich to be safe I believe....not to pass CARB
funny, sunday at the track I whooped a s/c 350z every single time.... I guess maybe his problem was the tune or he really couldnt drive... his best 1/8th was a 9.2 at 81mph....stock 350z beats that.... makes me think s/c waste all around
Originally Posted by crashnburn
funny, sunday at the track I whooped a s/c 350z every single time.... I guess maybe his problem was the tune or he really couldnt drive... his best 1/8th was a 9.2 at 81mph....stock 350z beats that.... makes me think s/c waste all around
Originally Posted by crashnburn
funny, sunday at the track I whooped a s/c 350z every single time.... I guess maybe his problem was the tune or he really couldnt drive... his best 1/8th was a 9.2 at 81mph....stock 350z beats that.... makes me think s/c waste all around
. Then again, I have a Vortech.
Originally Posted by Klumzyee
What headers and exhaust are you running? as well as which plenum mod
I might pull the spacer off and see how it goes from there..
JK
Originally Posted by gunluvS14
that's way too rich to make power.
if you can bring it back up to 11.5-11.8 range, you will be really happy
do you have the dyno graph with A/F print out? how's the AFR before the boost comes in?
what kind of FMU the kit supplied? check your base fuel pressure also
if you can bring it back up to 11.5-11.8 range, you will be really happy

do you have the dyno graph with A/F print out? how's the AFR before the boost comes in?
what kind of FMU the kit supplied? check your base fuel pressure also
I will perhaps look at testing base pressure but It must be alot for that AFR!
JK
Originally Posted by G35Rider92649
Hrrrrm, get new injectors, get new fuel pump, absolutely get a new engine management, a re-tune. I have a 5at and I recommend you to highly consider a external Tranny and Oil Cooler. A shopped messed up my car and was tuned unready and I was only hitting 303whp and 288tq on a dynojet, I was mad, had to be revived and now I'm happy with my new #s 

Im looking at a Stillen oil cooler soon, but im taking the car to nissan soon to get the gearbox fluid done so I will most likely get a tranny cooler put on the day before.
JK
With an A/F ratio around ~9-10 (aka pig rich... watch out, u might washout your o rings in your injectors) your HP arent going to be great. Find a good tuner that knows how to use the ss blackbox and u can ezly gain +10-20 more hp. Or upgrade to the 3.12 pulley to get 9psi and retune everything at once to save some $$$.
Originally Posted by w0ady
f/i without a separate piggyback like utec/fcon is a waste.
I was running to rich after I got my procharger installed, when the 550cc were in there the car barely started and was bogging, barely staying alive, fouled my sparkplugs, it was way too rich. Got it tuned with a Utec, now running good.
Last edited by G37Rider92649; Mar 6, 2008 at 03:00 AM.
You have other issues to deal with 1st before you start upping the boost. Like has been mentioned, you need to get your A/f under control. You are losing tons of power there. Once you get that straightened out, then mess with new pulleys.
Originally Posted by jaik
Yeah i think I will go for the more boost option.
Not many people have a SS box here in Australia - so it'll be a learning curve for all of us!
JK
Not many people have a SS box here in Australia - so it'll be a learning curve for all of us!
JK


