Greddy 20G vs. APS Extreme TT kits
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06-08-2009, 10:51 AM
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06-08-2009, 10:53 AM
There is no turbo that will be fun and responsive at 450whp, and still provide airflow to 1000whp.
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06-08-2009, 01:35 PM
once i upgrade to a full standalone i may have to come visit you sharif.. let me play around wit da utec for a lill and feel these turbos out..
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GT30 will not take you to 1000whp. The GT35 twin will, but it will be a dog at just 450whp, IMHO. Very laggy. That is a big dawg turbo setup, and very much a top end turbo.
There is no turbo that will be fun and responsive at 450whp, and still provide airflow to 1000whp.
There is no turbo that will be fun and responsive at 450whp, and still provide airflow to 1000whp.
If I go with the APS Extreme TT kit (keeping their 880cc injectors and dual fuel rail/dual in-tank pump setup) and using the GT30's along with a Haltech, could I have 450-550whp daily "fun" driver and still get to 800whp with a quick tune or boost dial-up? I guess I'd like to have the 800whp there on tap but still be able to cruise around town without getting spinning wheels all day long!
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You read my mind. I'm in southern California this week and just got off the phone with Sam from GTM. I think he's got me pretty well sold on why their kits are simply more completely designed than the APS and Greddy's.
Now just gotta figure out which one to start with! Based on my goals, I'm heavily leaning toward the Stage 3 kit with 1000cc injectors and the Haltech platinum PnP EMS.
Now just gotta figure out which one to start with! Based on my goals, I'm heavily leaning toward the Stage 3 kit with 1000cc injectors and the Haltech platinum PnP EMS.
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06-08-2009, 06:50 PM
You read my mind. I'm in southern California this week and just got off the phone with Sam from GTM. I think he's got me pretty well sold on why their kits are simply more completely designed than the APS and Greddy's.
Now just gotta figure out which one to start with! Based on my goals, I'm heavily leaning toward the Stage 3 kit with 1000cc injectors and the Haltech platinum PnP EMS.
Now just gotta figure out which one to start with! Based on my goals, I'm heavily leaning toward the Stage 3 kit with 1000cc injectors and the Haltech platinum PnP EMS.
The .64 AR will seem more responsive and less lag
The .86 AR will be better for top speed runs.
All depends on what you want from your car.
For track session and street I would go .64
Quarter mile I would do .86
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STG 2 kit (Garrett 2871R) with .86 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 800hp
or
STG 3 kit (Garrett 3071R) with .64 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 900hp
My dilemma is that I still want to maintain good mid-range power so daily driving is fun. Some say the GT30 turbos will have more lag and not really hit their efficiency zone until higher up on the tachometer. Yes, they'll crank out more power but they argue that I will lose some low-mid-range fun that I would get with the the GT28's. But of course, the GT28's will absolutely MAX OUT at 800whp so no room to grow.
Anyone have any experience with the GT28's vs the GT30's in this regard? I think I've got my choice now down to one of these two kits. Just looking for some of your experiences and/or advice, guys.
I guess the beauty of the GTM kit is that upgrading is really just about as easy as just dropping in a new set of turbos. Sam said they're currently working on developing a "trade-in" plan for past customers who've outgrown their originally purchased turbos and just want to pay the difference in cost to get their new ones!
Thanks!
B
#43
06-08-2009, 07:56 PM
think you will get the best from both worlds w/ stage 2, personally thats the one i would go for
specially since the majority of time its gonna be at low boost, so might as well boosts up stupid fast. and if you are going from 450rwhp and then turn it up to 750rwhp, its gonna feel like a whole 'nother monster. then by the time you get bored you can swap them out for the GT3071Rs
specially since the majority of time its gonna be at low boost, so might as well boosts up stupid fast. and if you are going from 450rwhp and then turn it up to 750rwhp, its gonna feel like a whole 'nother monster. then by the time you get bored you can swap them out for the GT3071Rs
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06-08-2009, 07:56 PM
Just talked to Nick and Sam again. I kind of caught in between these two options:
STG 2 kit (Garrett 2871R) with .86 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 800hp
or
STG 3 kit (Garrett 3071R) with .64 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 900hp
My dilemma is that I still want to maintain good mid-range power so daily driving is fun. Some say the GT30 turbos will have more lag and not really hit their efficiency zone until higher up on the tachometer. Yes, they'll crank out more power but they argue that I will lose some low-mid-range fun that I would get with the the GT28's. But of course, the GT28's will absolutely MAX OUT at 800whp so no room to grow.
Anyone have any experience with the GT28's vs the GT30's in this regard? I think I've got my choice now down to one of these two kits. Just looking for some of your experiences and/or advice, guys.
I guess the beauty of the GTM kit is that upgrading is really just about as easy as just dropping in a new set of turbos. Sam said they're currently working on developing a "trade-in" plan for past customers who've outgrown their originally purchased turbos and just want to pay the difference in cost to get their new ones!
Thanks!
B
STG 2 kit (Garrett 2871R) with .86 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 800hp
or
STG 3 kit (Garrett 3071R) with .64 AR and .800 BAR (11.6 PSI) wastegate springs, rated to 900hp
My dilemma is that I still want to maintain good mid-range power so daily driving is fun. Some say the GT30 turbos will have more lag and not really hit their efficiency zone until higher up on the tachometer. Yes, they'll crank out more power but they argue that I will lose some low-mid-range fun that I would get with the the GT28's. But of course, the GT28's will absolutely MAX OUT at 800whp so no room to grow.
Anyone have any experience with the GT28's vs the GT30's in this regard? I think I've got my choice now down to one of these two kits. Just looking for some of your experiences and/or advice, guys.
I guess the beauty of the GTM kit is that upgrading is really just about as easy as just dropping in a new set of turbos. Sam said they're currently working on developing a "trade-in" plan for past customers who've outgrown their originally purchased turbos and just want to pay the difference in cost to get their new ones!
Thanks!
B
I first had the GT28 and then upgraded to the GT30.....To tell you the truth I did see a little difference in the Upper Mid range because the GT30 hits harder and longer.....You see more of a difference in the low end with the GT28....BUT when you hit the upper mid to high...WOW !!!!
The GT30 comes alive. Its a weird feeling when you are on the freeway going over 65...down shifting and then losing traction.
GT30 is the best of both worlds.
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I first had the GT28 and then upgraded to the GT30.....To tell you the truth I did see a little difference in the Upper Mid range because the GT30 hits harder and longer.....You see more of a difference in the low end with the GT28....BUT when you hit the upper mid to high...WOW !!!! The GT30 comes alive. Its a weird feeling when you are on the freeway going over 65...down shifting and then losing traction.
GT30 is the best of both worlds.
The GT30 comes alive. Its a weird feeling when you are on the freeway going over 65...down shifting and then losing traction.GT30 is the best of both worlds.