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Old Mar 28, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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warning: do not put peepee in inlet of electric supercharger
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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So SPC GG, it seems as though you are full of it. First you say elec supercharger is better for heat, then you try to sell an intercooler with your electric SC that is supposed to NOT run hot, I shouldn't have to cool the air if it is not hot, right?, well then why spend an extra $500 on an intercooler if the SC does not run hot. I guess that is just for scamming extra money out of ppl? IDK Asking you........

Next the system costs $3363.00, with controller and methanol injection kit, like others have said, If I have that much sitting around why not save an extra $2000 and get a PROVEN supercharger like a stillen Stage 2 at 390hp or an ATI or Vortech that has shown up around 400hp. They also have PROVEN reliability.

If you want to sell systems to G35 or 350Z owners you have to bite the bullet. G & Z owners are usually pretty meticulous about their rides. So PM me, send me a full system for a 2006 G35 6MT, I will install kit, pay for dyno and post results. If they are good, I will talk up your Elec SC all day, if it sucks, do not expect any business coming your way. Sound good? Sounds great to me, you are getting everything in this deal, I on the other hand am giving up my time for install, time and $$$ for dyno, and my 2006 G35 with 40k on the odometer and only about 15k on the new engine.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gasrelay
Well I don't think I need theory for this one, but a
900 watt fan motor doesn't operate at 7hp with an FLA of 500amps. I don't even need to use ohms law to prove that because I've done motor calculations, electrical theory, ohms law in school, may be that could be why I can recognize 900 watt motor doesn't draw 500amps as "hang up and drive" claims it would. May be flyinb501 can do the calculation and he would have to do it at 100% effecieny because he wouldn't know how to calculate I2R losses, mechanical losses, or heat losses. May be that's why you make 60k a year and I make 150k plus.

500 amps, your stupid buddy
7hp, nice uneducated guess.
Ban me I don't give a f*** as long as I can point out
a dumbass it's worth it
Say what you gotta say,that's just how it is.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G3LU5
So SPC GG, it seems as though you are full of it. First you say elec supercharger is better for heat, then you try to sell an intercooler with your electric SC that is supposed to NOT run hot, I shouldn't have to cool the air if it is not hot, right?, well then why spend an extra $500 on an intercooler if the SC does not run hot. I guess that is just for scamming extra money out of ppl? IDK Asking you........

Next the system costs $3363.00, with controller and methanol injection kit, like others have said, If I have that much sitting around why not save an extra $2000 and get a PROVEN supercharger like a stillen Stage 2 at 390hp or an ATI or Vortech that has shown up around 400hp. They also have PROVEN reliability.

If you want to sell systems to G35 or 350Z owners you have to bite the bullet. G & Z owners are usually pretty meticulous about their rides. So PM me, send me a full system for a 2006 G35 6MT, I will install kit, pay for dyno and post results. If they are good, I will talk up your Elec SC all day, if it sucks, do not expect any business coming your way. Sound good? Sounds great to me, you are getting everything in this deal, I on the other hand am giving up my time for install, time and $$$ for dyno, and my 2006 G35 with 40k on the odometer and only about 15k on the new engine.
Im sorry if you misread something? Did I ever say that our units produce no heat? Or just that a goal is to negate the large amount of heat produced by a standard turbo. Compressing air, will ALWAYS produce heat, thats basic physic- Im sure youd agree. I was simply stating a plus side of an electric unit. Since it isnt directly inline of the engines exhaust, and also compressing that air, it will run -Cooler- than a comparative standard turbo. Even if an elec unit did produce no heat whatsoever, cooling that air even further would only be more of a power additive-cooler air is more dense, denser air in turn allows more fuel, etc etc...

Indeed `biting the bullet` is in the works heh, and I agree with your view of wanting to invest in a product that is proven, that only makes sense. This thread however was mostly focused on the technology/ideas behind a electric supercharger, and if they can or ever will be a viable alternative to what is currently available. I would love to have the capital to send you a unit, I will have to see if thats something we can do. In the mean time, ty for taking the time to get off the band wagon and actually talk with some knowledge. Its very refreshing to speak with level headed petrol heads! Thats another reason I posted here, was to hear what level minded people really want to know, and or think about elec superchargers
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SPC_GG
Im sorry if you misread something? Did I ever say that our units produce no heat? Or just that a goal is to negate the large amount of heat produced by a standard turbo. Compressing air, will ALWAYS produce heat, thats basic physic- Im sure youd agree. I was simply stating a plus side of an electric unit. Since it isnt directly inline of the engines exhaust, and also compressing that air, it will run -Cooler- than a comparative standard turbo. Even if an elec unit did produce no heat whatsoever, cooling that air even further would only be more of a power additive-cooler air is more dense, denser air in turn allows more fuel, etc etc...

Indeed `biting the bullet` is in the works heh, and I agree with your view of wanting to invest in a product that is proven, that only makes sense. This thread however was mostly focused on the technology/ideas behind a electric supercharger, and if they can or ever will be a viable alternative to what is currently available. I would love to have the capital to send you a unit, I will have to see if thats something we can do. In the mean time, ty for taking the time to get off the band wagon and actually talk with some knowledge. Its very refreshing to speak with level headed petrol heads! Thats another reason I posted here, was to hear what level minded people really want to know, and or think about elec superchargers
As I said, I will be a guinea pig. There could be a "sponsorship" from you, maybe some stickers, and lots of posts, dyno results, etc. Just let me know. I actually read the entire website. Also read about the other ESC or what ever from the other guys. The idea seems good. Just have to see what is going on. Not too sure about the extra battery weight either though. After some more reading on electrical power and batteries and such, How many batteries would I need to get this thing moving and how often will I have to change/recharge those batteries. Just PM me and let me know about the whole hooking me up so I can help hook you up.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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I'm willing to give this set up a chance since it looks to be an actual compressor rather than a fan.

But I'm holding off on judging it until I see proven results, and you can't exactly blame anyone for wanting results.
 
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Old May 30, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the_coupe
warning: do not put peepee in inlet of electric supercharger
aww man what am i paying for then?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Here's the Dyno'd truth...

Well thankfully i have money to burn (click, boom!) so i decided to put down the cash and do this test the right way. Results:

Its a ****ing Scam

I bought mine from performancechiptuning.com, which i would not recommend to anyone unless you enjoy ****ing rip-offs and gimmicks, but as i said i was curious and they seemed to be the most legit (click, boom!). It did seem to push out a good amount of air when i was playing with it before install, but i was skeptical from the start because the whole deal about it being "forced air" truly made no sense in terms of "supercharging" your car.

Now it's in and the truth begins. Four 3rd gear tests later and the test WITHOUT install yielded the best results across the board. So if you'd like to waste your money send it to me and maybe i can get back what i paid for the Dyno runs. You're welcome.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JarmaDUH
Well thankfully i have money to burn (click, boom!) so i decided to put down the cash and do this test the right way. Results:

Its a ****ing Scam

I bought mine from performancechiptuning.com, which i would not recommend to anyone unless you enjoy ****ing rip-offs and gimmicks, but as i said i was curious and they seemed to be the most legit (click, boom!). It did seem to push out a good amount of air when i was playing with it before install, but i was skeptical from the start because the whole deal about it being "forced air" truly made no sense in terms of "supercharging" your car.

Now it's in and the truth begins. Four 3rd gear tests later and the test WITHOUT install yielded the best results across the board. So if you'd like to waste your money send it to me and maybe i can get back what i paid for the Dyno runs. You're welcome.
Post the dyno sheets, please!

 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Should have got one of these, it would have been cheaper.

 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Or you could just do this...

 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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both posts above are win
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Working on posting the Dyno Specs
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 12:29 PM
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Having a hard time changing the view of the scanned results so when i get home round 3pm EST. I'll screw with the view on my Mac and get them ***** up. There's all sorts of goodies in the results as well. Just in case anyone was wondering if those fcking resistors chips work i got one of those on the test as well. "STAGE 2" Ohhhhh, what a piece of ****.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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How come everyone before were saying how it costs like a couple thousand, but this is like $200?


http://www.performancechiptuning.com...PSI+Vortex/10/
 
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