randy, how much power is your supercharged g putting out? any plans on turboing, or are you satisifed with the sc. i'm torn between the two, my infiniti tech told me to go with the vortech.

 

Just my two cents here...

From what I can gather from all the threads concerning SC or TT, I would have to say TT is the way to go.

1. The TT doesn't have the SC parasitic HP needs.
2. The TT delivers a more efficient hp increase. (prob same as #1)
3. TT seems safer and a more complete all round kit. (APS)
4. The APS system on their website states that you can use the stock nose instead of having to get a different nose for the IC. This is due to the ducting that infiniti has made into the nose. Something that I personally like cause I dont want to have anything on the outside reflecting the capabilities of the car.

Anyway, as it stands right now, I just need to find a great place to do the APS TT here in Charlotte, NC. Or, probably have to by the kit, then have my racer buddy (he has 3 Grand Nationals... One that he has tweaked to 1500hp) help me install it.

Not too sure about the pros and cons of the out of box tuning. Probably stay stock except for the exhaust system. Change that around so it has 0 back pressure.

 

Read my reply below...

 

It's clear to me by reading your post, that you have not done a whole lot of reasearch on FI and our cars.

1. The TT doesn't have the SC parasitic HP needs. First; I'll assume by "parasitic", you were referring to something that depends on something else for existence or support without making a useful or adequate return...if that was the case, bad use of terms. True, the Vortech SC uses the motor main belt to build boost, but it in no way uses that power without adequate return. I HAD 245 to the wheels BEFORE my SC and as my car stands right now, it has around 365 to the wheels (on a dynojet) 388 on a (DynaPack) and will be tuned soon at well over 400 as soon as I make an appointment, since I am leaving A LOT of power on the table that others with my exact system currently have tuned in the range. Not adaquate, I think not.

2. The TT delivers a more efficient hp increase. (prob same as #1) Efficient? I make my power across the powerband with NO lag.
3. TT seems safer and a more complete all round kit. (APS) My SC makes around 345lbft of torque which is A LOT safer than the TT's put out on stock internals. Power Enterprise, Greddy and other TT's have claimed the life of many VQ's in the past and the only SC I know of blowing any motor was the ATI and that was because it didn't come with a piggy-back computer to tune it properly. To date, I only know of one Vortech owner to have ANY issues and he fried a ring because by his own admission, didn't pull enough timing on the top end. And as for how complete my system is, it came with every nut and bolt you'd need as well as an FMU, AUX Fuel pump and everything else needed to make clean power.

4. The APS system on their website states that you can use the stock nose instead of having to get a different nose for the IC. This is due to the ducting that infiniti has made into the nose. Something that I personally like cause I dont want to have anything on the outside reflecting the capabilities of the car. Ever seen a pic of my car? I have the stock bumper...no problems. DFWG35, Booger and other Vortech owners all have stock bumpers and no problems.

Now, by stating these facts, am I bashing APS or the TT solution? Absolutely NOT. I feel that there are many solutions out there that work very well. The question isn't how well they work overall, but how well they work for a specific application. In my opinion, if you have a stock G (no internal engines mods, mainly strengthened RODS), a SC is a better solution, and in my opinion, Vortech is the only way to go. If you've built your motor, then TT is def the way to go. BTW, I have 9,300 miles on my Vortech with NO issues to date.

 

Hey Randy,

LOL.....Not flaming, but this is pretty contradictory when you are planning a badging the car with SUPERCHARGED under the Infinti logo.

 

note the date of that post...I received my new badge Friday. A guy can change his mind, right? "Mr. I have a Vortech installed and it's not enough power so I'm going with a Greddy!" Wait wait...stop the presses....Seairland made that comment, NOT ME!

 

Anyone have a Vortech in Socal that I can ride in?

 

Gman Quoted
400hp is 400hp. It does not matter if your are getting 400hp on a maxed out vortech set up or conservetive APS TT. If it is safe to run 400 on the APS than it is safe to do it on other kits.

Do you think that 400whp on the Vortech is putting more strain on the motor than 400whp from a TT or a ST ? My thinking is , it takes alot of hp to run the blower in the first place...Ive been told up to 100hp at redline . So 400wph from a Vortech maybe 480 to 500 whp on a TT set up .And at the same time , the trq produced by a TT set up will put more strain on the motor down low compared to a SC . And then of course it depends on the dyno you are on as to how much your going to get in the first place .

 

Jeeeeze...I just read what I said...did I make sense ?

 

Sort of made sense, I think and I may be wrong but what you are saying is that both systems put strain on the engine but at different points..ie the SC puts strain at the top end of the powerband due to the linear power it produces and the TT puts more strain at the lower end of the powerband due to the torque it produces down low.
I think both systems put strain on our engines at different points...I know as I have both type of cars in my garage but like Randy said before, 400hp is 400hp not matter what type of FI you are using.