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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 02:19 AM
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APS vs Vortech

i know this question might have been answered before, i did search up on it but i couldnt find anything. hopefully you guys can give me an answer and your opinion. I have 7.5k to spend on FI. Im going with either an APS Single Turbo or Vortech Super Charger. Sad thing is drive an 05 A/T. Which one would be more reliable and easier on my stock engine and transmission. Which one also pushes out more HP. I know on the Single Turbo, i need to upgrade my torque converter, anyone know how much something liek that would cost?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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better off with a stillen for an auto..more torque down low.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Try sending an admin or a moderator a PM asking them to put this post in the FI forum.

What I know is this... with an auto you'll want to look into a valve body upgrade (~$1200), a tranny cooler (~$50) skip the TC, gauges (~$600), gauge pod (~$80), installation of the S/C, ST or TT and the gauges and other parts (~$1000-$1300 for the S/C) & ~$2000-$2500 for the TT, tuning (~$300-$500). This will leave you with just shy of having enough money for a satin Vortech S/C. Then you will need 1 step colder plugs, a GATES belt (if you choose the S/C) and a few other miscellaneous items that you can add on should you choose.

I blew through $7000 and didn't get the VB or tranny cooler and I got a "good deal" on the tuning, the S/C and the install.

The APS ST or TT will cost more initially, will be a more expensive install but will give you more torque earlier in the rpm range.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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I have an 05 AT and went with Vortech. (so far...I have only done the tranny cooler upgrade). If you have any questions...let me know. (I got mine installed with Neffster so everything he said applies to me...). I have plenty of power down low and its a blast to drive. Just dont expect too much from a stop as it takes a few thousand RPM's for the blower to really kick in. It's when you downshift or have the RPM's already up there where its fun. 385 to the wheels is 385 to the wheels. Have fun....
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by da45king
better off with a stillen for an auto..more torque down low.
do you have any intelligent reasoning or personal experience to back this statement up? not trying to be a dick, but when people ask about FI, it's important to give relevant information and not just an opinion based on nothing.

You will spend more than 7k on an APS kit for the 5AT.. Your only solid option, which is still a great one, is the vortech unit. As todd listed out, you should easily be able to afford the vortech kit and if you can install the kit yourself (which is not too difficult if you are mechanically inclined), you will immediately shave $1000-1500 off your overall spending. If you do a search by name and look for a thread I created in the FI section about installing a vortech you will get a good idea about the system and how straight forward the install is (along with a great parts list).
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Jeeez TurboMaximum.......what a dick. haha.

The Stillen has less overall power (though the twin-screw blower gives you more power down low) and it requires you to get a god-awful hood. I'm guessing since this wasn't part of his original question, the OP already ruled out the Stillen.

A reason for the S/C over the TT would be the safety factor. Because s/c draw their power lineraly, it safer on the internals. (Not saying a good TT setup isn't as safe...but it does require some extra mods). The Vortech is bascially a slap-on kit.

Ohh...and with an AT...you are gonna wanna get the TS L-spec reflash to bump the rev limiter to 7100.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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ohhh you have to get gauges with a SC too =b ddn tknow that hahaha...so I have to upgrade my transmission no matter what i get SC or Turbo??

i really didnt like the Stillen Hood=b
 

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by aznx2cool4u
ohhh you have to get gauges with a SC too =b ddn tknow that hahaha...so I have to upgrade my transmission no matter what i get SC or Turbo??
You always want gauges to monitor your engine.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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gauges are a must for any FI engine.

No..you don't have to upgrade your tranny. Many folks have ran fine on stock tranny. Mine is stock but I just bought a $50 tranny cooler to help keep the heat down. I probably wont do the torque converter and am flip flopping with the valve body upgrade. (If it wasn't $1200, the choice would be easier).
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Where can i get gauges installed, can the place thats installing my turbo or sc do the gauges too? i wanna put them on the A Pillar
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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Yes. Most shops that install the FI will also install the gauges...for an additional cost of course
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Can I drive the car safely if i do get a Single Turbo? as long as i dont rev. high im fine right?... just later one i need to get a tranny cooler and torque converter?
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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I don't know since I really only read s/c threads. I'm sure there are some 5AT turbos out there who will chime in.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by g8tor20
gauges are a must for any FI engine.
I respectfully disagree with this comment. 13,000 miles and running with no gauges whatsoever. Not a MUST, but nice to have.
 
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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Well. Must is a strong word. You don't need it to run FI. But...not knowing what your engine is doing is increasing your level of risk.
 
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