My VRT built TT G35
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Heres what I REALLY dont get! These guys always post on here and my350z. It always turns into a flame war. Why is it they can push their shop and not pay to be a sponsor? APS got the boot for just trying to help. Z car garage pays to be a sponsor and they are never on here. I dont get it! If they dont post direct a NEW member does for them!
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Originally Posted by TINMAN
some how my questions has been ignore sad
Yes I am pretty sure he is still with his girlfriend.
As far as your SFR dyno day, It's up to him and his schedule. However, I can arrange for you to see that (his) car anytime, you live close enough (2 hours)let me know.
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Originally Posted by G352NV
Heres what I REALLY dont get! These guys always post on here and my350z. It always turns into a flame war. Why is it they can push their shop and not pay to be a sponsor? APS got the boot for just trying to help. Z car garage pays to be a sponsor and they are never on here. I dont get it! If they dont post direct a NEW member does for them!
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Originally Posted by drsifu1
i don't know anything whatsoever about dyno graphs, but from what I've read and researched...torque and HP should crossover at 5252 RPM, since calculating HP is simply mathematical formula involving TQ and RPM.
HP = (TQ x RPM)/5252
"The way that torque and horsepower relate to each other means that their lines will always cross at 5252 RPM. HP= TQ x RPM / 5252 TQ= HP x 5252 / RPM If a dyno graph does not follow the correct HP / TQ relationship, or even show the RPM and torque values, the graph is be immediately suspect of tampering"
HP = (TQ x RPM)/5252
"The way that torque and horsepower relate to each other means that their lines will always cross at 5252 RPM. HP= TQ x RPM / 5252 TQ= HP x 5252 / RPM If a dyno graph does not follow the correct HP / TQ relationship, or even show the RPM and torque values, the graph is be immediately suspect of tampering"
UUMMM.........probably because we only dynoed the car at 5000 RPM !!
(for tuning purposes) Not a peak HP run!
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huh?
the graph on my350z.com (prolly a different car than this G35) was also dynoed up to 5200 rpm, and if you look at the graph on post #248
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...3&page=5&pp=50
the HP/TQ curve only begins to come together, and again it happens where you expect it to, at around 5252 rpm.
what is the difference b/w this graph and the one on my350z.com, given both cars were not pulled to redline?
thanks in advance in helping me understand this dyno chart...i would assume regardless of how hard the car was dyno'd, the mathematical formula still holds true. maybe I am wrong.
please shed light on this subject
the graph on my350z.com (prolly a different car than this G35) was also dynoed up to 5200 rpm, and if you look at the graph on post #248
http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...3&page=5&pp=50
the HP/TQ curve only begins to come together, and again it happens where you expect it to, at around 5252 rpm.
what is the difference b/w this graph and the one on my350z.com, given both cars were not pulled to redline?
thanks in advance in helping me understand this dyno chart...i would assume regardless of how hard the car was dyno'd, the mathematical formula still holds true. maybe I am wrong.
please shed light on this subject
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Originally Posted by wa2good
UUMMM.........probably because we only dynoed the car at 5000 RPM !!
(for tuning purposes) Not a peak HP run!
(for tuning purposes) Not a peak HP run!
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What questions are you needing answered ?
and that was directly to him.so let him answers me.
i do have questions for you too Scott
now let say a customer want to give you his car.
1)how is this thing works?
2)you install JWT kit on now without the carb approve?
3)or you wait until JW gets carb approve then install the kit?
4)it sound like JW did not officialy release the kit yet but they authorize VRT to install the kit on customer's car.is that true?
5)what exactly does it means when you said you run prototype for JW? is that to test out the kit for them before it being release?
thanks inadvance for your answers.
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Originally Posted by TINMAN
if i remember right,i posted 3 questions right there in black and white
and that was directly to him.so let him answers me.
i do have questions for you too Scott
now let say a customer want to give you his car.
1)how is this thing works?
2)you install JWT kit on now without the carb approve?
3)or you wait until JW gets carb approve then install the kit?
4)it sound like JW did not officialy release the kit yet but they authorize VRT to install the kit on customer's car.is that true?
5)what exactly does it means when you said you run prototype for JW? is that to test out the kit for them before it being release?
thanks inadvance for your answers.
and that was directly to him.so let him answers me.
i do have questions for you too Scott
now let say a customer want to give you his car.
1)how is this thing works?
2)you install JWT kit on now without the carb approve?
3)or you wait until JW gets carb approve then install the kit?
4)it sound like JW did not officialy release the kit yet but they authorize VRT to install the kit on customer's car.is that true?
5)what exactly does it means when you said you run prototype for JW? is that to test out the kit for them before it being release?
thanks inadvance for your answers.
Answers to your questions
1) (Don't understand)
2) Yes, have done several
3) No, we install and deliver now (have done severall and counting)
4) VERY TRUE
5) Untill JWT gets CARB certs he has asked us to call them prototypes. VRT customers can have there car built by us and it can (and usually does) include this awesome JWT TT kit
Scott at VRT
Last edited by wa2good; 11-12-2005 at 11:54 PM.
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Originally Posted by wa2good
Thanks, I know see the misunderstanding.
the scaling on both graphs are the same.
since the graphing of HPand TQ is relative to RPM, it doesn't matter how you scale it. Double the scaling to HP and keep TQ the same, both curves should still cross at 5252.
The scaling will just move one curve vertically up/down compared to the other, but the crossover point will still be the same.
but like I said, nevamind.
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This whole VRT/JWT deal seems odd.
So JW is giving the O.K. for VRT to sell/install his prototypes, slap on a VRT name, and market it as VRT.
VRT just sounds like a knock-off.
VRT should start installing APS,Greddy,or SFR turbos, knowing all of them would out perform the JWT kit.
No offense, your car is cool minus the Stillen hood(I also used to have a Stillen SC).
And who cares about smog? How hard is it to offer a little extra incentive to the technician?
So JW is giving the O.K. for VRT to sell/install his prototypes, slap on a VRT name, and market it as VRT.
VRT just sounds like a knock-off.
VRT should start installing APS,Greddy,or SFR turbos, knowing all of them would out perform the JWT kit.
No offense, your car is cool minus the Stillen hood(I also used to have a Stillen SC).
And who cares about smog? How hard is it to offer a little extra incentive to the technician?
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Originally Posted by weslutes
This whole VRT/JWT deal seems odd.
So JW is giving the O.K. for VRT to sell/install his prototypes, slap on a VRT name, and market it as VRT.
VRT just sounds like a knock-off.
VRT should start installing APS,Greddy,or SFR turbos, knowing all of them would out perform the JWT kit.
No offense, your car is cool minus the Stillen hood(I also used to have a Stillen SC).
And who cares about smog? How hard is it to offer a little extra incentive to the technician?
So JW is giving the O.K. for VRT to sell/install his prototypes, slap on a VRT name, and market it as VRT.
VRT just sounds like a knock-off.
VRT should start installing APS,Greddy,or SFR turbos, knowing all of them would out perform the JWT kit.
No offense, your car is cool minus the Stillen hood(I also used to have a Stillen SC).
And who cares about smog? How hard is it to offer a little extra incentive to the technician?
IMO and VRT's (and frankly most anyone who has seen and worked with this kit), NONE of the above mentioned TT kits outperform the JWT TT kit, for what we are looking to do, quite the opposite in fact.
As far as smog testing goes, the bribing of technicians is up to you......we won't have too!
Scott at VRT
Last edited by wa2good; 11-13-2005 at 08:26 PM.