I want a turbo but to many obstacles :(
I used to think going single turbo was the best route for FI, but I think the stillen supercharger is really the most practical. I mean, if dealers are installing it, that speaks volumes, at least to me.
I think the Stillen is a better choice than the vortech if it's just going to be for street use...I could be wrong but it seems to be more reliable than the vortech, and while the potentional power might be less...for street use it should be perfect.
I think the Stillen is a better choice than the vortech if it's just going to be for street use...I could be wrong but it seems to be more reliable than the vortech, and while the potentional power might be less...for street use it should be perfect.
Last edited by MikeyMike; Mar 28, 2006 at 02:03 PM.
well.. it's hard to ignore that u are dropping 8Gs on the car...
I know what u mean with the fast out of the box thing
my dilema is similar
I have the cash for the turbo..
but should I save up that money, and wait for the GT-R....
I'm fed up of being ravaged by STis as well
I know what u mean with the fast out of the box thing
my dilema is similar
I have the cash for the turbo..
but should I save up that money, and wait for the GT-R....
I'm fed up of being ravaged by STis as well
I want one too. Here is how I look at it for you:
1) You only have 1 car
2) FI is expensive, not only initially but only makes the mod bug bite harder
3) You're going to spend all your money on it just to "keep up" with other cars, presumably on the street
4) Can you afford a court hearing, jail time, and impound fees when you get locked up for street racing?
Get an EVO or STI if that is what you really want. They come stock with boost eliminating the worry about downtime, mods are cheap to make big power, and then you don't have to worry about it.
1) You only have 1 car
2) FI is expensive, not only initially but only makes the mod bug bite harder
3) You're going to spend all your money on it just to "keep up" with other cars, presumably on the street
4) Can you afford a court hearing, jail time, and impound fees when you get locked up for street racing?
Get an EVO or STI if that is what you really want. They come stock with boost eliminating the worry about downtime, mods are cheap to make big power, and then you don't have to worry about it.
maybe a low shot of nitrous as a cheaper and easier alternative...?
the reason i kept my first car (the '99 civic), and the main reason i bought this car (the '06 G) was because of my turbo addiciton! my turbo civic has a lot of downtime because of the FI. the G is there as my daily driver and its the car that i used to pull me out of the obsession that i had for the little honda. right now the civic's job is to keep my mind off of turbo'ing the G.
in addition, i don't feel bad beating the **** out of my civic. on the other hand, i would feel bad beating on the G. i even feel like i'm sinning when i floor it too many times in a row. maybe its the price tag...
eventually i'll probably get the urge to go FI on the G, but i'll probably change my mind. its definately a lot of maintenance and the tightness (lack of space) of the G engine bay honestly intimidates me.
my honest opinion is that a 2nd mode of transportation is almost mandatory.
the reason i kept my first car (the '99 civic), and the main reason i bought this car (the '06 G) was because of my turbo addiciton! my turbo civic has a lot of downtime because of the FI. the G is there as my daily driver and its the car that i used to pull me out of the obsession that i had for the little honda. right now the civic's job is to keep my mind off of turbo'ing the G.
in addition, i don't feel bad beating the **** out of my civic. on the other hand, i would feel bad beating on the G. i even feel like i'm sinning when i floor it too many times in a row. maybe its the price tag...
eventually i'll probably get the urge to go FI on the G, but i'll probably change my mind. its definately a lot of maintenance and the tightness (lack of space) of the G engine bay honestly intimidates me.
my honest opinion is that a 2nd mode of transportation is almost mandatory.
My '97 Mitsu. GSX was a great little modded ride. Never had a real reliability issue with it (true, it was turbo from the factory), but pulling 140HP more than stock did create some additional heat. To make matters worse, I'm in West Texas, where we have several summer months that hover at or above 100 degree temps.
This, combined with the fact that the G wasn't built for a turbo from the factory, keeps me from going FI. If I lived in a cooler climate, I'd already be have a turbo system installed. Wish I could, but I'm saving myself from the potential problems.
This, combined with the fact that the G wasn't built for a turbo from the factory, keeps me from going FI. If I lived in a cooler climate, I'd already be have a turbo system installed. Wish I could, but I'm saving myself from the potential problems.
im in the same boat. i was thinkin TN ST but alot of problems are surfaceing and its starting to make the vortech look good. and think abou this, lets say like what, 1/100 vortech owners have some problem. its just a falty kit. there are ALOT of people on here w/ the vortech taht are problem free. and some that have had problems, then got them solved and now everything works perfect.
Same dillemma here...it's a hard decision, the debut of the GT-R in a few years does not make it any easier either. The fact that the G is my only car and a daily driver still under warranty till 100k miles (extended warranty) keeps detering me, but everytime i see a vid, or read a post i become that much closer to biting the bullet.
Sometimes I feel that all the money and trouble put into the car this crap isn't worth it, all the agony when something goes wrong or just the hassle of having to pull over to do this or that on occasion sucks.
Then when you hit the gas, or somebody goes "daymmnn its boosted, that's the shiet" you get a nice feeling
. Not sure how to explain it, but since nearly everything that's gone into my car, has gone into it by my hands, I get a sense of satisfaction. That feeling alone pretty much makes everything well worthwhile.
As for getting around, I'm still looking for a cheap r6, while in the meantime I'm practicing learning how to ride. Bike insurance isn't going to be too bad either, considering renting a car under 25 is too daymn expensive.
Another option would be to keep the g35 as your dd, and buy a cheaper car to mod... that's always fun too if you have a mod bug.
Then when you hit the gas, or somebody goes "daymmnn its boosted, that's the shiet" you get a nice feeling
. Not sure how to explain it, but since nearly everything that's gone into my car, has gone into it by my hands, I get a sense of satisfaction. That feeling alone pretty much makes everything well worthwhile.As for getting around, I'm still looking for a cheap r6, while in the meantime I'm practicing learning how to ride. Bike insurance isn't going to be too bad either, considering renting a car under 25 is too daymn expensive.
Another option would be to keep the g35 as your dd, and buy a cheaper car to mod... that's always fun too if you have a mod bug.
I can only imagine what pressing on the accelerator, and hearing that supercharger whine or turbo spooling, followed by the intense power boost and the awesome sound of the BoV can feel like, if i had the cash i would, without a doubt, go FI.
Originally Posted by IS300TOG35
When I went to Ballistic/Avalon racing a few months ago to get some stuff installed, a desert platinum vortech g35 was in the shop with no blower. The blower had to be sent back to vortech becuase it was killing belts every few hundred miles. He said that this was the third blower for this car. He also said Chris's blower (blue G with greddy front, ken rear, and sf winnings) has been through a few blowers as well. I went back almost a month later and that SAME desert platinum vortech G was still in the shop. Case in point, I CAN't have that stuff happening.
Bottom line: if you can AFFORD it, and realize you will never get the $$ back you spend, go for it. FI isn't for everyone. But for some of us it puts a smile on our faces that you just can't get anywhere else
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Another happy Vortech owner here. The difference is that I sold my stock G and bought one with everything already done. I was hesitant about it for a while, even after I took ownership.
After a session at the track (albeit a slow session due to rain) and last weekend at the dragstrip I can tell you that FI can be fun AND safe. I made 5 runs down the dragstrip bringing the car from 0 - 100+ mph in under 14 seconds. That's 4 redline shifts for each run. The car did not miss a beat. A Vortech setup with low boost (due to free flowing exhaust) is a great way to go in my humble opinion. The system has a lot of potential for more horsepower but then you start to close in on the power vs. reliability factor.
This Vortech has now seen about 17,000 trouble-free miles ... and yes it's my daily driver
, yes it's awesome to hear the supercharger everytime you step on the gas
, yes it's awesome to see people looking when they hear the "whoosh" of the blower
After a session at the track (albeit a slow session due to rain) and last weekend at the dragstrip I can tell you that FI can be fun AND safe. I made 5 runs down the dragstrip bringing the car from 0 - 100+ mph in under 14 seconds. That's 4 redline shifts for each run. The car did not miss a beat. A Vortech setup with low boost (due to free flowing exhaust) is a great way to go in my humble opinion. The system has a lot of potential for more horsepower but then you start to close in on the power vs. reliability factor.
This Vortech has now seen about 17,000 trouble-free miles ... and yes it's my daily driver
, yes it's awesome to hear the supercharger everytime you step on the gas
, yes it's awesome to see people looking when they hear the "whoosh" of the blower
Originally Posted by MikeyMike
I used to think going single turbo was the best route for FI, but I think the greddy supercharger is really the most practical. I mean, if dealers are installing it, that speaks volumes, at least to me.
I think the Stillen is a better choice than the vortech if it's just going to be for street use...I could be wrong but it seems to be more reliable than the vortech, and while the potentional power might be less...for street use it should be perfect.
I think the Stillen is a better choice than the vortech if it's just going to be for street use...I could be wrong but it seems to be more reliable than the vortech, and while the potentional power might be less...for street use it should be perfect.
I've read everyone's reply regarding FI in this thread, and not one person mentions what horsepower goals they have. Almost all of you are talking about being able to hang with STI's or just like the sound a FI setup makes.
If you don't set a whp goal for yourself, you'll be dissapointed in the long run with your setup, because there will always be the next guy that will come by and blow your doors off, and the grin of your face will turn upside down.
But if you have a goal set in your mind, and biuld your car based on that goal, you'll be happy no matter what, becuase you acieved what you set out to do in the first place. I find this to be a big problem with many FI owners.
FI isn't easy or cheap as many know. It's a commitment that not everyone can afford, both monetary and time wise. If you can't put up with the possibility of down-time when you don't expect it, or don't have any other means of getting around, then maybe you should consider something else.
But if you do it right the first time, it can be rewarding. But of course this is just my opinion
If you don't set a whp goal for yourself, you'll be dissapointed in the long run with your setup, because there will always be the next guy that will come by and blow your doors off, and the grin of your face will turn upside down.
But if you have a goal set in your mind, and biuld your car based on that goal, you'll be happy no matter what, becuase you acieved what you set out to do in the first place. I find this to be a big problem with many FI owners.
FI isn't easy or cheap as many know. It's a commitment that not everyone can afford, both monetary and time wise. If you can't put up with the possibility of down-time when you don't expect it, or don't have any other means of getting around, then maybe you should consider something else.
But if you do it right the first time, it can be rewarding. But of course this is just my opinion


