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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Looks like OP is in for an expensive learning experience.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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it seems like u were messing around and turned vdc off. with it on i have never spun the car out or lost control even when i tryed to make it lose control with vdc on i couldn't. I have tryed it in various g35s, you really have to be f'ing around to mess up like that.

its your fault, man up to it.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2005g35sedanyay
it seems like u were messing around and turned vdc off. with it on i have never spun the car out or lost control even when i tryed to make it lose control with vdc on i couldn't. I have tryed it in various g35s, you really have to be f'ing around to mess up like that.

its your fault, man up to it.
More nonsense. I have outstanding winter tires and even with the VDC On I've had it slide in bad conditions. Considering that most cars come with extremely crappy tires as stock, it's totally conceivable that the tires lost their grip in adverse conditions. My Mazda CX-7, with AWD, came with Bridgestone Turanzas. The first day it snowed, we got maybe a half inch, and literally on the first gentle curve I took (at about 20 mph) the car slid all the way to the edge of the road. And I've been driving in real winters most of my life, so I know what I'm doing. ^^^ You weren't there and you don't know the conditions, so quit speculating on what the OP did or didn't do. It makes you look kinda stupid.

threeputzz has a very good point. OP, if they gave you a loaner that didn't have proper equipment (tires) for the conditions, you might actually be able to sue them for putting you in a dangerous situation. It's not up to you to determine if the tires are adequate when you picked up the loaner, it's up to the dealership. They're supposed to be the experts.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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Exactly, I wasn't messing around or anything .. Why on earth would I be drifting on the freeway? I'm not the stupid ..

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try going 50 mph on a freeway when it's raining, then make a sudden turn trying to avoid something on the street then you will see what your VDC will do .. I know the sudden turn wasn't a smart move but that was my spontaneous reaction ..

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More nonsense. I have outstanding winter tires and even with the VDC On I've had it slide in bad conditions. Considering that most cars come with extremely crappy tires as stock, it's totally conceivable that the tires lost their grip in adverse conditions. My Mazda CX-7, with AWD, came with Bridgestone Turanzas. The first day it snowed, we got maybe a half inch, and literally on the first gentle curve I took (at about 20 mph) the car slid all the way to the edge of the road. And I've been driving in real winters most of my life, so I know what I'm doing. ^^^ You weren't there and you don't know the conditions, so quit speculating on what the OP did or didn't do. It makes you look kinda stupid.

threeputzz has a very good point. OP, if they gave you a loaner that didn't have proper equipment (tires) for the conditions, you might actually be able to sue them for putting you in a dangerous situation. It's not up to you to determine if the tires are adequate when you picked up the loaner, it's up to the dealership. They're supposed to be the experts.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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When the dealership gives you a loaner, you sign a waiver and it goes with you in the car, it basically says YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the car and YOUR INSURANCE will be covering any damage, not theirs. Why should they be covering the car when it is in YOUR possession?

Would you pay for damage the dealership made to your car while it was in their possession? Or would you expect for them to pay for it?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by hani
Exactly, I wasn't messing around or anything .. Why on earth would I be drifting on the freeway? I'm not the stupid ..

2005g35sedanyay,
try going 50 mph on a freeway when it's raining, then make a sudden turn trying to avoid something on the street then you will see what your VDC will do .. I know the sudden turn wasn't a smart move but that was my spontaneous reaction ..
YOU had and accident. Your insurance covers your accidents. if you only have liability not sure what you were thinking. at least for me, (married, kid, spotfree driving record, same company for over 5yrs) full coverage was actually cheaper than a civic and i live in baltimore! anyways, youre insurance should be covering this. Not sure how it wouldnt or else everyone would be crashing rental/loaner cars.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyRuskie
When the dealership gives you a loaner, you sign a waiver and it goes with you in the car, it basically says YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the car and YOUR INSURANCE will be covering any damage, not theirs. Why should they be covering the car when it is in YOUR possession?

Would you pay for damage the dealership made to your car while it was in their possession? Or would you expect for them to pay for it?
Yet another person who HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. Did you read the waiver? Do you know the insurance laws in the state where Hani got the loaner? Do you know the difference between personal and business insurance in that state? No? Then shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about. Sheesh, this thread is full of morons who think they know everything.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bluemax189
YOU had and accident. Your insurance covers your accidents. if you only have liability not sure what you were thinking. at least for me, (married, kid, spotfree driving record, same company for over 5yrs) full coverage was actually cheaper than a civic and i live in baltimore! anyways, youre insurance should be covering this. Not sure how it wouldnt or else everyone would be crashing rental/loaner cars.
Blue, please read the entire thread. Insurance laws are different in every state. I borrowed my Dad's car once and hit a deer. The repairs came out of his insurance because in Michigan the insurance follows the car, not the driver. If you don't know how it works in the OP's state, then don't comment as if you do.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeInMI
Blue, please read the entire thread. Insurance laws are different in every state. I borrowed my Dad's car once and hit a deer. The repairs came out of his insurance because in Michigan the insurance follows the car, not the driver. If you don't know how it works in the OP's state, then don't comment as if you do.
This situation is completely different. I'm sure dealer's are smart enough to cover their ***, so I highly doubt they're responsible for this.

Sure you borrowed your dad's car, but had he made you sign a waiver, it would be a different story...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cpufreak3
This situation is completely different. I'm sure dealer's are smart enough to cover their ***, so I highly doubt they're responsible for this.

Sure you borrowed your dad's car, but had he made you sign a waiver, it would be a different story...
My point was that he shouldn't be making overly broad, all-encompassing statements when the laws are different in every state. You don't know what the waiver said any more than CrazyRuskie. People on here keep assigning blame to the OP when they know little to nothing about the situation that caused the accident, anything about insurance law, or anything about the OP's own insurance policy other than he only has liability.

I can pretty much guarantee that the dealership will get it's car repaired by it's own insurance company, at which point it will be the insurance company's decision whether or not to try to get re-imbursement from the OP. That's why they have insurance. And if their rates go up, then that's the price of doing business. They could certainly pursue it through legal means, but that just means the damaged car will sit there depreciating and not being sold.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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ur F ed!

only liability? on a g? wow
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:23 AM
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^ f'ed is right cant just have liability ftl
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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I knew someone in college who had no health insurance and only liability on a 2 year old Honda Accord back when it was the most stolen vehicle in the country. Sure enough, her car got stolen and she had to go to the hospital in the same year. Her family is loaded and live in Brentwood, CA. People do stupid things when it comes to buying insurance.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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I knew someone in college who had no health insurance and only liability on a 2 year old Honda Accord back when it was the most stolen vehicle in the country. Sure enough, her car got stolen and she had to go to the hospital in the same year. Her family is loaded and live in Brentwood, CA. People do stupid things when it comes to buying insurance.
Most people only learn when they get themselves in a terrible bind. It's a bad way to learn life lessons but it's what people do. In that girls case, she will probably never learn because every time she ****s up her family will just bail her out.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:38 PM
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Most people only learn when they get themselves in a terrible bind. It's a bad way to learn life lessons but it's what people do. In that girls case, she will probably never learn because every time she ****s up her family will just bail her out.
It's the American way!
 
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