8000k hid kit
this thread is retarded.
Only positive feedback? Feedback on what? where are the pics?
Your car already has HID lights so you did not install a kit, just bulbs.
Congratulations! you replaced your stock bulbs designed to put out the max amount of lumens for something that puts out a lot less light.
Only positive feedback? Feedback on what? where are the pics?
Your car already has HID lights so you did not install a kit, just bulbs.
Congratulations! you replaced your stock bulbs designed to put out the max amount of lumens for something that puts out a lot less light.
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Ya I really don't understand the point of this thread at all. I have the 10000k bulbs in my car and kept 35w bulb and the light is more blue and brighter so yes it does actually make your lights brighter not dimmer.
now here is a fact:
the higher the kelvin rating of a bulb, the lower its lumen rating. So a bulb that is a 4300K pure white will be significantly brighter than a 10,000K purple bulb.
I like the color of 6000k the best even tho its not optimum, 8000k is nice, 10000k is RICEEE
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Danielrhine is wrong because his lights are not brighter, just a different color. In fact, they are quite a bit dimmer (fewer lumens) because of that high Kelvin rating. At 10000K, a considerable amount of the light output is up in the ultraviolet range, which the human eye can't see. Your bulbs are in fact, quite a bit dimmer than stock. Off the top of my head, I'd say you're only at about 70% of stock with respect to visible light.
Derek is wrong by saying that the higher the Kelvin the lower it's lumen rating. A 1000K bulb is dimmer than a 2000K bulb because some of its light output is down in the infrared range, which the human eye can't see.
Think of it as a bell curve, with 4300K right near the top. A 2500K fog light will be dimmer than stock, but it's color helps it cut through precipitation (snow, rain, fog, etc.) by not only reflecting less light back to the driver (it's a dimmer bulb), but also because the human eye can focus better in a yellow light* that a pure white light. A white light does have some blue in it, and the wavelength of blue light is too short to reach the retina of the human eye without distortion. That's why the people who've replaced their interior LEDS with blue ones have said it's harder to read the instruments. They're a little blurry. Conversely, on our bell curve, a 6000K bulb is also dimmer than stock, but since blue can be a very soothing color to humans (probably because we can't focus on it), a 6000K or 8000K bulb looks good to us. And Daniel, that 10000K bulb probably looks good to you as well. I imagine it's got some purple in it too. But don't be fooled into thinking your high K bulb is brighter than stock, because it isn't.
* This is why the highest quality sun glasses all have either a yellow or rose colored lens. I'm not talking about it's outward appearance (that could just be surface treatment), but what the lens actually filters. My Julbo Micropore glacier glasses look blue to the other persion, but they filter out all the blue light so you can truly see every little ripple in the snow on a bright day. A valuable asset when a crevasse might have a thin cover of snow but dips noticeably.
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uhh yeah many years ago...
EDIT: upon further review of what was last posted (but not at the time of my second post in this thread), i recall my previous post.
EDIT: upon further review of what was last posted (but not at the time of my second post in this thread), i recall my previous post.
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Actually, you're both wrong. 4300K, 8000K, and 10000K bulbs all put out exactly the same amount of light because they're all 35W bulbs. The Kelvin rating (K) only tells you what color the light is. It's lumens, or luminous intensity, tells you how much of that light is visible to the human eye.
Danielrhine is wrong because his lights are not brighter, just a different color. In fact, they are quite a bit dimmer (fewer lumens) because of that high Kelvin rating. At 10000K, a considerable amount of the light output is up in the ultraviolet range, which the human eye can't see. Your bulbs are in fact, quite a bit dimmer than stock. Off the top of my head, I'd say you're only at about 70% of stock with respect to visible light.
Derek is wrong by saying that the higher the Kelvin the lower it's lumen rating. A 1000K bulb is dimmer than a 2000K bulb because some of its light output is down in the infrared range, which the human eye can't see.
Think of it as a bell curve, with 4300K right near the top. A 2500K fog light will be dimmer than stock, but it's color helps it cut through precipitation (snow, rain, fog, etc.) by not only reflecting less light back to the driver (it's a dimmer bulb), but also because the human eye can focus better in a yellow light* that a pure white light. A white light does have some blue in it, and the wavelength of blue light is too short to reach the retina of the human eye without distortion. That's why the people who've replaced their interior LEDS with blue ones have said it's harder to read the instruments. They're a little blurry. Conversely, on our bell curve, a 6000K bulb is also dimmer than stock, but since blue can be a very soothing color to humans (probably because we can't focus on it), a 6000K or 8000K bulb looks good to us. And Daniel, that 10000K bulb probably looks good to you as well. I imagine it's got some purple in it too. But don't be fooled into thinking your high K bulb is brighter than stock, because it isn't.
* This is why the highest quality sun glasses all have either a yellow or rose colored lens. I'm not talking about it's outward appearance (that could just be surface treatment), but what the lens actually filters. My Julbo Micropore glacier glasses look blue to the other persion, but they filter out all the blue light so you can truly see every little ripple in the snow on a bright day. A valuable asset when a crevasse might have a thin cover of snow but dips noticeably.
Danielrhine is wrong because his lights are not brighter, just a different color. In fact, they are quite a bit dimmer (fewer lumens) because of that high Kelvin rating. At 10000K, a considerable amount of the light output is up in the ultraviolet range, which the human eye can't see. Your bulbs are in fact, quite a bit dimmer than stock. Off the top of my head, I'd say you're only at about 70% of stock with respect to visible light.
Derek is wrong by saying that the higher the Kelvin the lower it's lumen rating. A 1000K bulb is dimmer than a 2000K bulb because some of its light output is down in the infrared range, which the human eye can't see.
Think of it as a bell curve, with 4300K right near the top. A 2500K fog light will be dimmer than stock, but it's color helps it cut through precipitation (snow, rain, fog, etc.) by not only reflecting less light back to the driver (it's a dimmer bulb), but also because the human eye can focus better in a yellow light* that a pure white light. A white light does have some blue in it, and the wavelength of blue light is too short to reach the retina of the human eye without distortion. That's why the people who've replaced their interior LEDS with blue ones have said it's harder to read the instruments. They're a little blurry. Conversely, on our bell curve, a 6000K bulb is also dimmer than stock, but since blue can be a very soothing color to humans (probably because we can't focus on it), a 6000K or 8000K bulb looks good to us. And Daniel, that 10000K bulb probably looks good to you as well. I imagine it's got some purple in it too. But don't be fooled into thinking your high K bulb is brighter than stock, because it isn't.
* This is why the highest quality sun glasses all have either a yellow or rose colored lens. I'm not talking about it's outward appearance (that could just be surface treatment), but what the lens actually filters. My Julbo Micropore glacier glasses look blue to the other persion, but they filter out all the blue light so you can truly see every little ripple in the snow on a bright day. A valuable asset when a crevasse might have a thin cover of snow but dips noticeably.
You, sir, are the man. Way to set the record straight!
