What do you guys think about the Cayman S?
#19
The Cayman is awesome to drive, and I think it's the best looking Porsche. I'd love to see them add the 3.6 or 3.8 to the lineup. The 320HP 3.4 is very nice, but more is better!
JD Power is totally useless. They're funded by the car industry, so have an existential reason to give them good ratings, and they only look at initial quality and short term quality (1 year or less). Every non-biased, non-auto industry funded source shows Porsche to be below average for reliability. They're awesome cars, but they are not considered reliable.
I don't know where you get your numbers, but they're all wrong. The Cayman R starts at $66K, a G37 Coupe Sport, the most expensive G37, starts at $44K, and you can get a 2007 Cayman S for about $33K. I'm sure you can easily get well beyond $78K with options on the Cayman, but I think you'd have to put every option on a G37 to get to $58K.
Porsches are constantly at the top of the JD Power reliability ratings:
http://www.insideline.com/porsche/jd...st-issues.html
http://www.insideline.com/porsche/jd...st-issues.html
I don't know where you get your numbers, but they're all wrong. The Cayman R starts at $66K, a G37 Coupe Sport, the most expensive G37, starts at $44K, and you can get a 2007 Cayman S for about $33K. I'm sure you can easily get well beyond $78K with options on the Cayman, but I think you'd have to put every option on a G37 to get to $58K.
#20
I don't know where you get your numbers, but they're all wrong. The Cayman R starts at $66K, a G37 Coupe Sport, the most expensive G37, starts at $44K, and you can get a 2007 Cayman S for about $33K. I'm sure you can easily get well beyond $78K with options on the Cayman, but I think you'd have to put every option on a G37 to get to $58K.
#21
JD Power is totally useless. They're funded by the car industry, so have an existential reason to give them good ratings, and they only look at initial quality and short term quality (1 year or less). Every non-biased, non-auto industry funded source shows Porsche to be below average for reliability. They're awesome cars, but they are not considered reliable.
#23
Nobody buys base price vechicles. Base prices are useless but, in this case I quoted a $20,000 price difference which is spot on. I arrived at the prices by building the vechicles on the Infiniti and Porsche sites with the options that I feel people would select. Yes, there are 2007 Cayman S's for 33,000 but, they start on auto trader for around $46,000. If I'm buying a used Porsche I would select the lowest mileage, documented and best condition vechicle I could find. With the repair costs of Porsche cars...going cheap in the long run is going to cost you way more.
Yes, I get pissy when people post incorrect information.
#24
Maybe you're right about JD Power but you can't compare the reliability of a Porsche to an Infiniti. These cars aren't anywhere near to the same class. When you're talking reliability of a Porsche you have to compare it to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc... Porsche is hands down the leader of reliability in the supercar class.
And while Porsche might be the most reliable in the supercar class, that's a very relative term and doesn't mean it's actually reliable. The Nissan Leaf might be the fastest car in the all-electric class, but that doesn't make it fast. Sorry, Porsches are very expensive to own, primarily because they aren't that reliable regardless of class, and repairs are horrendously expensive.
#25
I just gave you the caveat for selecting $40,000 as a high middle price for a used Cayman. I would not low ball a used Cayman. As a matter of fact I wouldn't buy a used Cayman I would buy a new one. When Porsche released the Cayman R they sent me a hardbound promotional book in a vinyl portfolio inviting me to come to the local dealer for a preview and test drive. OK, so now we're talking about a difference of $25,000 instead of the $20,000 I quoted. Sorry but $5,000 is an insignificant amount of money when you purchase $70,000 dollar cars. I can see that something meaningless might make you pissy. Being right all the time must be difficult.
Last edited by BlkCoupe; 08-12-2011 at 11:28 PM.
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Maybe you're right about JD Power but you can't compare the reliability of a Porsche to an Infiniti. These cars aren't anywhere near to the same class. When you're talking reliability of a Porsche you have to compare it to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, etc... Porsche is hands down the leader of reliability in the supercar class.
#30
I just gave you the caveat for selecting $40,000 as a high middle price for a used Cayman. I would not low ball a used Cayman. As a matter of fact I wouldn't buy a used Cayman I would buy a new one. When Porsche released the Cayman R they sent me a hardbound promotional book in a vinyl portfolio inviting me to come to the local dealer for a preview and test drive. OK, so now we're talking about a difference of $25,000 instead of the $20,000 I quoted. Sorry but $5,000 is an insignificant amount of money when you purchase $70,000 dollar cars. I can see that something meaningless might make you pissy. Being right all the time must be difficult.
And nobody really cares what you'd pay for a car or that you wouldn't buy a used Cayman. Thinking your **** doesn't stink must be difficult.