spark knock / detonation
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spark knock / detonation
anyone have issue with this? when under a load and at lower RPMs (2100 or below) i hear a bit of spark knock or detonation... it is like i am running bad gas or a lower octane... but, i've put nothing but BP (amoco) Ultimate in my ride... is this normal? or am i mistaking this noise for valve train noise? maybe i need new plugs? (9500 miles on the car...i hope not)
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i hear it rarely, but so far on every tank of gas... i doubt they're putting regular into the premium tanks as that would take collusion with the truck drivers... and i don't visit the same station each time...
this is really bothering me as i think it might be valve related and not spark knock...
this is really bothering me as i think it might be valve related and not spark knock...
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Originally Posted by allforthecash
yes all G35 (coupes at least) have this....at idle you can hear it knock and run a little rough...here and there...
BUT...i never had it at running speeds or under load....engine has always been smooooth....i'll pay closer attention next time i'm driving.....
BUT...i never had it at running speeds or under load....engine has always been smooooth....i'll pay closer attention next time i'm driving.....
I don't have any rough idling or engine knock problems at all.
Echephron, are you running 91 or 93 octane? The 2 pts difference shouldn't make the car knock, you might want to try an ECU reset.
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Originally Posted by patton
Rather a sweeping statement for someone who hasn't heard my car run.
I don't have any rough idling or engine knock problems at all.
Echephron, are you running 91 or 93 octane? The 2 pts difference shouldn't make the car knock, you might want to try an ECU reset.
I don't have any rough idling or engine knock problems at all.
Echephron, are you running 91 or 93 octane? The 2 pts difference shouldn't make the car knock, you might want to try an ECU reset.
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Originally Posted by patton
Rather a sweeping statement for someone who hasn't heard my car run.
I don't have any rough idling or engine knock problems at all.
Echephron, are you running 91 or 93 octane? The 2 pts difference shouldn't make the car knock, you might want to try an ECU reset.
I don't have any rough idling or engine knock problems at all.
Echephron, are you running 91 or 93 octane? The 2 pts difference shouldn't make the car knock, you might want to try an ECU reset.
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Reset your ECU... if your getting spark knock that low the computer is giving it way too much timing, would def have the dealer check it out, or hook a wideband up to it and see whats going on, usually u dont get spark knock untill the top of the RPM band where the engine leans out some.
Pull a plug and see what they look like too.
Pull a plug and see what they look like too.
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Originally Posted by JaxGman
Reset your ECU... if your getting spark knock that low the computer is giving it way too much timing, would def have the dealer check it out, or hook a wideband up to it and see whats going on, usually u dont get spark knock untill the top of the RPM band where the engine leans out some.
Pull a plug and see what they look like too.
Pull a plug and see what they look like too.
These cars tend to run pretty lean below 4k rpms, and then gradually richen out up top.
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two things i've noticed... one, it only does it when it's hot out... in the mornings, i hear no noise no matter what gear i'm in or what type of load the car is under... but, when it's 85-90 degrees, it starts... second thing i've noticed is that my air filter is fubed... idiots at dealership sprayed engine bay with "shine" stuff and it's like oil... it's all in the filter, which i didn't notice until i started driving and got road dust mixed in... i'm replacing with ztube and k&n air filter this weekend... maybe air filter being clogged silly could cause issue?
as far as reseting ecu goes, that was done this weekend when i put in new 10000K HIDs... (which suck, btw...don't get them...it's like driving around with blue flashlights)
as far as reseting ecu goes, that was done this weekend when i put in new 10000K HIDs... (which suck, btw...don't get them...it's like driving around with blue flashlights)
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Originally Posted by echephron
anyone have issue with this? when under a load and at lower RPMs (2100 or below) i hear a bit of spark knock or detonation... it is like i am running bad gas or a lower octane... but, i've put nothing but BP (amoco) Ultimate in my ride... is this normal? or am i mistaking this noise for valve train noise? maybe i need new plugs? (9500 miles on the car...i hope not)
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Update
took vehicle into service center... they retarded the timing by 2 degrees... (from 15 to 13) and it cured the problem... they also recommended that i run premium fuel only... i kindly informed them, for the second time that day, that that's all i had run... bp ultimate and shell vpower... this gets me to wondering if we're getting not-so-refined fuels at our stations here... since katrina, i've had thoughts that refinement has been diminished and they're just pushing out fuel to keep up with the huge american demand...