Infiniti is always comparing their offerings to BMW, and it's obvious that the G competes against the BMW 3 series. Well BMW has raised the bar considerably with their 335i, and Infiniti better get its act together or risk being an afterthought. Here's an excerpt:

The non-turbocharged 330i, rated by BMW at 255 hp and 220 lb-ft of torque, puts about 200 hp and 180 lb-ft to the rear wheels. That’s roughly a twenty-percent loss. Since they have similar drivelines, you’d expect the 335i to put down 235 hp and 250 lb-ft.

But it didn’t. It put down a whole lot more: 275 hp and 300 lb-ft. A few quick taps on our trusty calculator shows that this engine is likely putting out closer to 350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque.

The full article:

http://www.automobilemag.com/feature...i_dynamometer/

 

actually the engine should have been rated at about 322hp/350lbft.

regardless, yes infiniti is losing ground. i dont think they intended on maintaining the position of the G from when it first came out. if infiniti were serious, they would have put a small 3.7L V8 in the G...

 

I dont we have lost any ground... especially since the G35 has had the same specs for years (except for the 05 - 06 6MT) and BMW is JUST NOW catching up for 2007. ALSO... the specs for the 2008 G35 Coupe have yet to be released (i believe), so I would definately not feed into the BMW hype, yet.

AND furthermore, the price comparrison is COMPLETELY ridiculous between the two. My mother just bought a 06 BMW 325i and paid the same as I did for my 05 G35C 5AT, and I can DEFINATELY out perform hers. Lastly, the 330i and 335 are definately over 40K. Which leave me to say, even with what the G35 offers now (power wise), with the price difference you can turbo or Stillen Stage II, and have spent the same amount of money as you would have for a BMW. With room for stickers

Thank you for listening... In case you were wondering I am definately against BMW's and their pricing. Very over priced IMO.

 

GT-R is going to be the twin turbo VQ35 engine i believe. Thats whats going to compete with the 335i (kick is ***). Even though the GT-R will wear a nissan badge in the end nissan and infiniti are the same thing.

 

275HP at the rear wheels with a 20% driveline lost would require a 343.75HP engine to be preccise: 275 X 1.25 = 343.75 HP.

A quick way to get more HP with a minimum investment is through turbocharging like BMW did. Infiniti could take the same route.

 

the gt-r is going to be sick... twin turbo...they're going to be kept spooled electronically that way u get instant boost!

 

I dont we have lost any ground... especially since the G35 has had the same specs for years (except for the 05 - 06 6MT) and BMW is JUST NOW catching up for 2007.

LOL You better reread the article if you think that BMW is just catching up. They have leaped ahead and their '07 model is just a tad slower than the E46 M3 and faster in certain gears. As you suggest let's hope Infiniti does something for the '08 G coupe.

 

It should be awesome but you are talking about a $75K car. I don't think I want my $75K gt serviced at a Nissan Dealership, at least not the ones near me.

 

Exactly, what a turn-off. To buy a $75K car to be serviced at Nissan. Man, if you guys haven't had your car serviced at Nissan before, you are in for rude awakening. At least my Infiniti dealer gives me a loaner when I get the oil changed. Also, I don't think the GT-R is competing against the 335i? Maybe more like the M3, since they are in the same price-point.

 

i think german cars are all just catching up in the HP game. its a safe statement to say the ***'s overrate their cars w/ HP and germans underrate if not even out. however the 3 series and audi a4's all have always had much less HP compared to like the g sedan...only recently have they started to produce larger HP #s

 

doesnt matter.. BMW has won car of the year so MANY times.. overall their car is better. thats why its much Pricier w. all the options the G comes stand. with.

and yes i know they won wit their 3 Series, the new M3 and 335i will jus be a whole nother level..

 

^^please site your sources. dont just make claims w/o a source. Infiniti has been named on the top 10 for most reliable behind lexus. the coupe also has the best resale value of any car (2003-2005)...go check edumunds for the 'sources'. and since when does something which costs more money=its better??? please....

 

but its not really 20%.
its less, closer to 16%.

nissan will be turbocharging for the GT-R, however that's a completely different segment. in that case i believe the GT-R will perform well compared to the E90 M3. In the entry level luxury car segment however, where the G35, 335i, and IS350 are, this update may not be enough.

With this new engine, the G35 will have difficulty keeping up with the IS350 (which has a more advanced engine) much less the 335i. By current estimates the new Gs will put 260-265hp on the ground, 10 less than the 335 and roughly in line with the IS350. Torque is a different story however- the G35 will likely have a 50lbft+ deficit.

If Nissan's lucky, they'll be able to keep up here, but these aren't the competition's strengths! The IS350's best card is its refinement. The 335i is designed around a driving experience, with a very high level of refinement to match.

The only answer imo is for Nissan to leave base prices relatively unchanged and to ask about $32k for the new G. That would be several thousand less than their competition.

 

I hear u, but but LOOK AT THE PRICE YOUR PAYING in comparrison to the G... Thats my main point.

 

no need to check. they have the title of 'best car of the world'

Im not saying Infiniti isnt doing well Im jus saying that their 3 Series cant be beaten by Nissan or Lexus or even Mercedez. and I never said that a car is better b/c costs more.