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Originally Posted by FAST1
Just curious, why did you pick the CS over the C6? Comparably equipped the CS cost around $15K more than the C6, and the C6 is a faster car with over 100 more HP. Don't get me wrong I think the CS is a great car, but when I went to my local Porsche Dealer and saw the upper $60K sticker, I decided it wasn't the car for me. Also, I believe that Porsche is the only car company to charge more for their coupe than vert.
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Originally Posted by GEE-WIZ
Maybe he didn't want to drive around in a plastic bathtub. There's more to a car than HP.
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Asnwer a few questions. My insurance jumped from 1400 a year to 1800 a year.
My other cars were
1993 Toyota Camry (beater totaled)
2000 Crystler Sebring Convertible (leased, given back)
2006 Mini Cooper S (sold)
1960 Caddy Fleetwood (being restored)
My other cars were
1993 Toyota Camry (beater totaled)
2000 Crystler Sebring Convertible (leased, given back)
2006 Mini Cooper S (sold)
1960 Caddy Fleetwood (being restored)
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Also to clear up some stuff.
1: I will never own another American car. They are just all POS. I don't care how fast they are and if they have 1000000 HP and they fly.
2: It's a cayman S. That one run me about 71,000
1: I will never own another American car. They are just all POS. I don't care how fast they are and if they have 1000000 HP and they fly.
2: It's a cayman S. That one run me about 71,000
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Originally Posted by FAST1
Probably an observation from someone who has never driven a C6. Sports cars are all about performance, and you get lots of performace both in a staight line and in the twisties from the C6. Of course the CS will outperform the C6 on a track, but on the road the vette will prevail.
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Isn't the price of a Z06 about $20k more. I'm not saying that the performance numbers of a C6 aren't worthy, it's just a plastic pos in my opinion.
And a Porsche turbo coupe costs more than a 997 vert, but a 997 vert costs a lot more than a 997 coupe. The C6 Z06 is a street legal race car, and the only thing it has in common with the C6 is its platform. BTW a C6 Vert costs around $8K more than a comparably equipped C6 coupe. A Cayman S costs a lot more than a Boxster S.
And a Porsche turbo coupe costs more than a 997 vert, but a 997 vert costs a lot more than a 997 coupe. The C6 Z06 is a street legal race car, and the only thing it has in common with the C6 is its platform. BTW a C6 Vert costs around $8K more than a comparably equipped C6 coupe. A Cayman S costs a lot more than a Boxster S.
CONGRATS! Love the Cayman S I have one word for you Techart! It's time to modify that puppy starting with the rims. Here are a few pics of the Techart Cayman S if this is not car ecstacy I don't know what is.
BTW FAST1 you Z06ified should talk to each other. He lives and breath Corvette's he thinks it's the best car ever made and won't accept no for an answer.
BTW FAST1 you Z06ified should talk to each other. He lives and breath Corvette's he thinks it's the best car ever made and won't accept no for an answer.
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Originally Posted by FAST1
Just curious, why did you pick the CS over the C6? Comparably equipped the CS cost around $15K more than the C6, and the C6 is a faster car with over 100 more HP. Don't get me wrong I think the CS is a great car, but when I went to my local Porsche Dealer and saw the upper $60K sticker, I decided it wasn't the car for me. Also, I believe that Porsche is the only car company to charge more for their coupe than vert.
1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
2) Cayman S is more reliable, check the Cayman forums at www.caymanclub.net and you'll see no serious problems, in fact very few at all. Check the Corvette forums and you'll find almost 50% of C6 owners have had their cars just quit on them, several recalls and problems galore. Cayman S was also rated #1 in quality and reliability by JD Power for 2006, C6 didn't make the top 50.
3) Looks - Cayman S is drop dead gorgeous, C6 is a warmed over C5 with not so attractive headlights
4) Owners who speak with their wallets. Several C6 owners have dumped their C6's for the Cayman S, there have been no known Cayman owners dumping for the C6.
5) Chevette er Corsica er Cavalier radio and other interior bits in the C6, the interior on the Cayman S is much nicer and shares components with the much more expensive 911 turbo.
Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
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FYI there are also other instances of a coupe being more expensive than a convertible, and in fact it is more expensive for Porsche to build the Cayman than the Boxster so Porsche chose to price the car that way. It's up to the buyer to decide if they want coupe or convertible, both are great cars...
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Originally Posted by KenDude
Several reasons NOT to get the C6
1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
2) Cayman S is more reliable, check the Cayman forums at www.caymanclub.net and you'll see no serious problems, in fact very few at all. Check the Corvette forums and you'll find almost 50% of C6 owners have had their cars just quit on them, several recalls and problems galore. Cayman S was also rated #1 in quality and reliability by JD Power for 2006, C6 didn't make the top 50.
3) Looks - Cayman S is drop dead gorgeous, C6 is a warmed over C5 with not so attractive headlights
4) Owners who speak with their wallets. Several C6 owners have dumped their C6's for the Cayman S, there have been no known Cayman owners dumping for the C6.
5) Chevette er Corsica er Cavalier radio and other interior bits in the C6, the interior on the Cayman S is much nicer and shares components with the much more expensive 911 turbo.
Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
2) Cayman S is more reliable, check the Cayman forums at www.caymanclub.net and you'll see no serious problems, in fact very few at all. Check the Corvette forums and you'll find almost 50% of C6 owners have had their cars just quit on them, several recalls and problems galore. Cayman S was also rated #1 in quality and reliability by JD Power for 2006, C6 didn't make the top 50.
3) Looks - Cayman S is drop dead gorgeous, C6 is a warmed over C5 with not so attractive headlights
4) Owners who speak with their wallets. Several C6 owners have dumped their C6's for the Cayman S, there have been no known Cayman owners dumping for the C6.
5) Chevette er Corsica er Cavalier radio and other interior bits in the C6, the interior on the Cayman S is much nicer and shares components with the much more expensive 911 turbo.
Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
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Originally Posted by KenDude
Several reasons NOT to get the C6
1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
2) Cayman S is more reliable, check the Cayman forums at www.caymanclub.net and you'll see no serious problems, in fact very few at all. Check the Corvette forums and you'll find almost 50% of C6 owners have had their cars just quit on them, several recalls and problems galore. Cayman S was also rated #1 in quality and reliability by JD Power for 2006, C6 didn't make the top 50.
3) Looks - Cayman S is drop dead gorgeous, C6 is a warmed over C5 with not so attractive headlights
4) Owners who speak with their wallets. Several C6 owners have dumped their C6's for the Cayman S, there have been no known Cayman owners dumping for the C6.
5) Chevette er Corsica er Cavalier radio and other interior bits in the C6, the interior on the Cayman S is much nicer and shares components with the much more expensive 911 turbo.
Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
1) It isn't any faster on the track, in fact in the straights pretty much dead even, in the corners Cayman S is faster. At my last track outing I was within 1-2 seconds on lap times vs. a C6 Z06 on race rubber on a 2.5 mile course, the regular C6 could not keep up. Porsche does not advertise the Cayman S's true horsepower (around 315-320 stock, not 295) and Chevy over-reports the C6's HP, and the C6 is a heavier car by a couple hundred pounds.
2) Cayman S is more reliable, check the Cayman forums at www.caymanclub.net and you'll see no serious problems, in fact very few at all. Check the Corvette forums and you'll find almost 50% of C6 owners have had their cars just quit on them, several recalls and problems galore. Cayman S was also rated #1 in quality and reliability by JD Power for 2006, C6 didn't make the top 50.
3) Looks - Cayman S is drop dead gorgeous, C6 is a warmed over C5 with not so attractive headlights
4) Owners who speak with their wallets. Several C6 owners have dumped their C6's for the Cayman S, there have been no known Cayman owners dumping for the C6.
5) Chevette er Corsica er Cavalier radio and other interior bits in the C6, the interior on the Cayman S is much nicer and shares components with the much more expensive 911 turbo.
Last, but not least - Gold Chains not required to drive the Cayman S!
Another important fact is that the Cayman and C6 are two very different animals. If anything, the 911 would be more comparable to the C6 than a Cayman (performance-wise) but when it comes to price the ZO6 (nevermind the C6) has got the 911 beat hands down. The only area where the Vette and Cayman are comparable are price - performance-wise, in pedigree, and characater these are two different machines. The only similarity between the cayman and the vetter are their price points.
Consider what you are getting for your $70k:
ZO6 - 500+ HP and TQ
one of the fastest 0-60, 60-100, and 100-150 times in the world
world class braking AND pretty damn good handling
sub-par interior materials and ergonomics
Cayman - slightly over 300hp
0-6 in just under 5 seconds
world class handling
Snazzy interior and great balance
Porsche Cache
I think its unfair to pigeon-hole Corvette owners less sophisticated - which many people do. Granted - the interior quality is not on par with its European rivals but it is quite clear where GM spent their money - and thats in the engineering.
Performance and Value-minded enthusiasts shouldn't be misconstrued as un-sophisticated - the Corvette is a world class sports car on par with the best Europe or Japan has to offer from a performance standpoint.
This wouldn't be an issue if GM charged $5-7k more and gave the Vette a world class interior...but then all the detractors would start complaining about paying over $70k for a GM...
A sports car isn't just about horsepower - I understand that much. But If you want a fast car with a great interior and the cache to boot - I would buy an Aston Martin or a Bentley GT - better interiors and much more limited than Porsche.
