Hydrolocked car during 2" rainstorm...
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My father said it would click when they first tried, but later made no noise at all. They had the car towed within 3-4 hours of the whole thing happening... so without us knowing anything about the actual condition of the car it could seem as if Infiniti is just going for replacement.
Originally insurance wanted to see if the engine could be rebuilt, but now they have found a used 2004.
Originally insurance wanted to see if the engine could be rebuilt, but now they have found a used 2004.
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don't settle for a used engine. Push to get a new engine replacement.
Also I wouldn't trust any of those infiniti mechanics to do a perfect engine replacement job. Its not like they do it everyday.
I was lucky that the engine was completely unrebuildable. Everything else in the car is fine. I got 50k miles on it and it was a 2k3. There were about to replace the engine if it wasn't 50% of the retail value of the car.
The engine itself cost at least 10k
Also I wouldn't trust any of those infiniti mechanics to do a perfect engine replacement job. Its not like they do it everyday.
I was lucky that the engine was completely unrebuildable. Everything else in the car is fine. I got 50k miles on it and it was a 2k3. There were about to replace the engine if it wasn't 50% of the retail value of the car.
The engine itself cost at least 10k
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Originally Posted by Gdup35sedan
If your car got hydrolocked and its totally stock on the engine... it should be no question on the dealer's part that they have to replace your engine. It's not your fault and if the water could splash up 2 feet into the stock intake (dont know how that's possible) then that is a big problem that infiniti themselves need to fix.
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I hate to say it, but hydrolocking the engine is not a manufacturing defect, regardless of intake position. Driving in puddles of any depth at any level of speed above a crawl places the responsibility for any damage sustained squarely on the owner. It is the responsibility of the owner to know the limits of their vehicle and use it accordingly. If you took your coupe off-road and destroyed the suspension in the process, you could hardly ask the dealership to replace it under warranty because you used it for a purpose that it was not intended for. Driving it through a flood is no different.
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Originally Posted by vt_maverick
No way. I have a friend that works at a Cadillac dealership and he said that they had two Escalades come into the shop after the last flood, both with hydrolocked engines. The air intake is probably four feet off the ground, but you know how people are, they think since they have a manly SUV they can ford the Mississippi with it. Anyway, both were denied warranty replacement because the damage occurred as a direct result of the owner's misuse of the vehicle.
I hate to say it, but hydrolocking the engine is not a manufacturing defect, regardless of intake position. Driving in puddles of any depth at any level of speed above a crawl places the responsibility for any damage sustained squarely on the owner. It is the responsibility of the owner to know the limits of their vehicle and use it accordingly. If you took your coupe off-road and destroyed the suspension in the process, you could hardly ask the dealership to replace it under warranty because you used it for a purpose that it was not intended for. Driving it through a flood is no different.
I hate to say it, but hydrolocking the engine is not a manufacturing defect, regardless of intake position. Driving in puddles of any depth at any level of speed above a crawl places the responsibility for any damage sustained squarely on the owner. It is the responsibility of the owner to know the limits of their vehicle and use it accordingly. If you took your coupe off-road and destroyed the suspension in the process, you could hardly ask the dealership to replace it under warranty because you used it for a purpose that it was not intended for. Driving it through a flood is no different.
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This comment is directed to the newbs. No names, or fingers pointed to anyone. But if the shoe fits... take this advice.
HEY NEWB, IF YOU KNOW IT RAINS ALOT AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH PUDDLES, SPEND $40 AND SLAP ON A AEM BY-PASS VALVE!!!!!
I dont mean to offend anyone, but it bothers me to see people buying things w/o doing proper research and hurting their cars.
HEY NEWB, IF YOU KNOW IT RAINS ALOT AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH PUDDLES, SPEND $40 AND SLAP ON A AEM BY-PASS VALVE!!!!!
I dont mean to offend anyone, but it bothers me to see people buying things w/o doing proper research and hurting their cars.
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Originally Posted by Silverbolt
This comment is directed to the newbs. No names, or fingers pointed to anyone. But if the shoe fits... take this advice.
HEY NEWB, IF YOU KNOW IT RAINS ALOT AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH PUDDLES, SPEND $40 AND SLAP ON A AEM BY-PASS VALVE!!!!!
I dont mean to offend anyone, but it bothers me to see people buying things w/o doing proper research and hurting their cars.
HEY NEWB, IF YOU KNOW IT RAINS ALOT AND YOU DRIVE THROUGH PUDDLES, SPEND $40 AND SLAP ON A AEM BY-PASS VALVE!!!!!
I dont mean to offend anyone, but it bothers me to see people buying things w/o doing proper research and hurting their cars.
That would defeat the purpose of the CAI though.. lol
The bypass valve restricts air.
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Originally Posted by G35BASTARD
That would defeat the purpose of the CAI though.. lol
The bypass valve restricts air.
The bypass valve restricts air.
With a bypass valve, you can competely submerge the entire intake filter head underwater, and the water will rise only an inch or two above the intake filter head because the bypass valves are opening up, and your long tubed cold induction intake has not automatically turned itself into a short ram intake.
You're probably thinking its some kind of internal filter that sits inside the piping. Its nothing like that. Its exactly what its called. its a "By-Pass".
There is no way possible for a bypass valve to restrict air flow.
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Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I hate to say it, but hydrolocking the engine is not a manufacturing defect, regardless of intake position. Driving in puddles of any depth at any level of speed above a crawl places the responsibility for any damage sustained squarely on the owner. It is the responsibility of the owner to know the limits of their vehicle and use it accordingly. If you took your coupe off-road and destroyed the suspension in the process, you could hardly ask the dealership to replace it under warranty because you used it for a purpose that it was not intended for. Driving it through a flood is no different.
But there were plenty of times on the freeway, when you don't see puddles. I learned of this one section of the freeway on the way to my house that is particularly scary. Even in broad-daylight you cant see the puddle. The way the road is angled, it looks like the pavement is just wet, but there is actually a small stream flowing across the freeway.
I'm not about to slam on my brakes at every single puddle I see on the road. And goodluck trying to do that at night. One time I went to pickup the wife, and was nearing her work. The road looked normal, but the next thing I knew, water was splashing over the hood.
and for the record, you can be absolutely still and still have to worry about water getting in your engine. Many times, I'll be on the freeway at a complete stop, stuck in traffic, and traffic on the other side is not jammed. I'll be idling by the barrier (no puddles near me), and a car/truck will hit a puddle on the other side, and a tidal wave of water comes splashing over the barrier.
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Originally Posted by avs007
I beg to differ.... Driving off road is one thing... Driving through a puddle is another. Some puddles you can anticipate, like the one in this picture. I probably got lucky, because I didn't even see the puddle, because there was a traffic jam, so there wasn't a lot of room to see in front of the car in front of me.
But there were plenty of times on the freeway, when you don't see puddles. I learned of this one section of the freeway on the way to my house that is particularly scary. Even in broad-daylight you cant see the puddle. The way the road is angled, it looks like the pavement is just wet, but there is actually a small stream flowing across the freeway.
I'm not about to slam on my brakes at every single puddle I see on the road. And goodluck trying to do that at night. One time I went to pickup the wife, and was nearing her work. The road looked normal, but the next thing I knew, water was splashing over the hood.
and for the record, you can be absolutely still and still have to worry about water getting in your engine. Many times, I'll be on the freeway at a complete stop, stuck in traffic, and traffic on the other side is not jammed. I'll be idling by the barrier (no puddles near me), and a car/truck will hit a puddle on the other side, and a tidal wave of water comes splashing over the barrier.
But there were plenty of times on the freeway, when you don't see puddles. I learned of this one section of the freeway on the way to my house that is particularly scary. Even in broad-daylight you cant see the puddle. The way the road is angled, it looks like the pavement is just wet, but there is actually a small stream flowing across the freeway.
I'm not about to slam on my brakes at every single puddle I see on the road. And goodluck trying to do that at night. One time I went to pickup the wife, and was nearing her work. The road looked normal, but the next thing I knew, water was splashing over the hood.
and for the record, you can be absolutely still and still have to worry about water getting in your engine. Many times, I'll be on the freeway at a complete stop, stuck in traffic, and traffic on the other side is not jammed. I'll be idling by the barrier (no puddles near me), and a car/truck will hit a puddle on the other side, and a tidal wave of water comes splashing over the barrier.
holy crap... that's huge puddle!!!
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Originally Posted by Silverbolt
There is no way possible for a bypass valve to restrict air flow.
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Originally Posted by avs007
I beg to differ.... Driving off road is one thing... Driving through a puddle is another. Some puddles you can anticipate, like the one in this picture. I probably got lucky, because I didn't even see the puddle, because there was a traffic jam, so there wasn't a lot of room to see in front of the car in front of me.
But there were plenty of times on the freeway, when you don't see puddles. I learned of this one section of the freeway on the way to my house that is particularly scary. Even in broad-daylight you cant see the puddle. The way the road is angled, it looks like the pavement is just wet, but there is actually a small stream flowing across the freeway.
I'm not about to slam on my brakes at every single puddle I see on the road. And goodluck trying to do that at night. One time I went to pickup the wife, and was nearing her work. The road looked normal, but the next thing I knew, water was splashing over the hood.
and for the record, you can be absolutely still and still have to worry about water getting in your engine. Many times, I'll be on the freeway at a complete stop, stuck in traffic, and traffic on the other side is not jammed. I'll be idling by the barrier (no puddles near me), and a car/truck will hit a puddle on the other side, and a tidal wave of water comes splashing over the barrier.
But there were plenty of times on the freeway, when you don't see puddles. I learned of this one section of the freeway on the way to my house that is particularly scary. Even in broad-daylight you cant see the puddle. The way the road is angled, it looks like the pavement is just wet, but there is actually a small stream flowing across the freeway.
I'm not about to slam on my brakes at every single puddle I see on the road. And goodluck trying to do that at night. One time I went to pickup the wife, and was nearing her work. The road looked normal, but the next thing I knew, water was splashing over the hood.
and for the record, you can be absolutely still and still have to worry about water getting in your engine. Many times, I'll be on the freeway at a complete stop, stuck in traffic, and traffic on the other side is not jammed. I'll be idling by the barrier (no puddles near me), and a car/truck will hit a puddle on the other side, and a tidal wave of water comes splashing over the barrier.
If anything, it's an Act of God, which should be covered by insurance.
Others might notice that in another thread I complained about an owner trying to get his hydrolocked engine replaced by his insurance company - in that case, the owner had a CAI. In this case, the owner does not. Difference: intent.