The Supra was my first favorite car, man would i love to own one

 

I am very proud of you guys for facing reality. Most times you all sound like you can't see any other car but the G. The G35 is a great car but a few are better, especially the Supra. I would have turned in my G35driver.com membership if there was blinded worship in this post. Let's not over do it though. You may not be able to do a lot with the horsepower without major surgery but you can modify the suspension to the near equal of the older sportcoupes. Especially with the right choice of wheels/tires. Then there's reliability. The RX7 would probably overheat in a race with a G35 and lose. The G35 ain't far behind.

 

^^^^ Same here

 

I'm with Johnny: you can't beat a pure sports car like the RX-7's in terms of handling and balance. Add some power and you've got a beast!

 

BZZZZZTTT!!!! Sorry, thanks for playing, please try again.

The G is slower than the 90's turbo cars in straight line performance. This is quite true, although the G is not drastically slower. Whats the G 6MT run the 1/4 in? Mid to low 14's? Well, the 300ZXTT's and Supra TTs were in the midhigh 13's to low 14's, and the 0-60 times differed by at most a second, more like .5 seconds.

Handling wise, the G is heads above the 300ZX, and is better than the Supra Braking wise, I beleive the G is better as well, though I don't have the numbers in front of me.

As for weight, yes, the G is a heavy car, but so was the Supra and so was the 300ZXTT. The only lightweight Japanese super car of the 90's was the RX-7, and they had serious reliability issues.

The point is that the mid 90s Japanese super cars are pretty comparable to our G, all things considered.

However, and here is where the big difference is, all of those mid 90's cars were relatively easy to modfy, both in straight line performance and handling and braking. I had a 1990 300ZXTT, with STOCK turbos, and about $6000 in performance mods, I had 415 rwhp. That is 415 hp at the wheels, not at the crank. Show me a G with less than $10000 in it with 415 at the wheels, and I will be rather suprised.

Turboed cars make extra power easily is what it boiled down to. The non turbo versions of the Z32 and the Supra were dogs, and tons of money could be thrown at the engines, and they still didn't respond very well. Our G is a highly tuned, normally aspirated car, and as such, it takes a lot of money to get more horsepower. I've allready put a good bit into mine and it still isn't much faster than before. Of course, I have big plans for a JWT twin turbo when I get back from Iraq next year, but thats a different story.

My two centavos
Dave

 

I have a 1998 Supra twin turbo with just a downpipe, exhaust, and boost controller, and my car made 410 hp at the wheels (about 470 HP at the crank) I have driven a 05 6mt...nothing against the G....I think its a very sweet ride but it has nowhere near the power and acceleration of my supra...and the supra also feels like it handles and brakes a lot better then the G...and at 42,000 new in 98 it had to be the sports car bargain of the century.

 

I think a lot of guys will agree, that ULTIMATELY, the Supra was A BIT better car, and yes, if these cars were still made today, I would easily dish out the 40k... but to say that the G has "nowhere near the power and acceleration", or "the supra also feels like it handles and brakes a lot better", is a VERY biast view of the comparison.

I'm getting into the Japanese-Import game rather late, as I spent most of my young life working at European dealerships as a technician. I have spent time with BMW and thier modified Alpina division, at Mercedes and their AMG machines, and yes, even Ferrari. (Not much to do with Ferraris as I was just an apprentice back then and all I basically did to them was alignments... just being honest.) But I have plenty of driving time with AMG's and I can tell you that my Auto G Coupe will give me the same rush as driving, for example, a CL55K. I'm by no means comparing the two vehicles side by side (because they are SO different in many respects) but the pure rush of driving them is nearly equal. (The CL will give you more of a rush because it's so big that you **** your pants trying to figure out how to take a turn with this "boat" when at full throttle. It's scary stuff... and the walnut steering wheel gives you no comfort... it's almost staring back at you saying "Who the **** are you?!"

I remember te first time I drove a G I thought "Smooth as silk".
I once drove a 96 TT Supra and from what I gather/remember, the G coupe handles much better than the Supra. Of course I'm comparing technologies that are 8 years apart, but that's what I gathered. As for acceleration, I don't know how someone can quote the G has "nowhere near" the power of a Supra, c'mon, that's just ridiculous.

I love the Supra, and yes, If they were still available, I would look into one. But at some point in my life, I got tired of replacing bearings on Garrett turbochargers... too high mainenance.

 

I actually owned a 1995 supra twin turbo,,It was purchased at 45k, which would be the equvilent to 55-60k today (guessing). So It was alot more expensive than the G35c today. so it has to be a better car than the G.........acceleration, cornering...etc....

 

does anybody have slalom, skidpad numbers for the supra? i HIGHLY doubt it handles/brakes better than the G

 

If you guys are talking about pure sport cars and not 'luxury sport coupes'...... The new Lotus Elise would put the 90's import sport cars to shame with its puny 190hp Toyota engine. The turbo days are over because of emission laws and reliability problems. The G35C isn't as heavy as we might think compared to the 90's heavyweights. 3000GT was a pig, as were GT-R, Supra and 300ZX were not light at all, and the rally cars (Evo, WRX STi) weren't available in the States at the time.

If we were to look at the G35C as a sporty luxury car , then we would compare it to the Acura Legend Coupe, Lexus SC300, Mercedes C36AMG, BMW E36 M3, and Audi S4. I'd take the G35C over any of these 90's luxury sport.

 

Just seconding what this person said about price. If the Supra was rereleased today for sale wouldn't it's price range fall closer to an M3, which in most books, but not to the stupid debaters on here, out of the same league as the g35? With that said if toyota made a new supra it would have it's following and it would kick *** but at a price range not near g35

 

Braking? Supra did 60-0 in 109ft. in one of the magazine tests. It has one of the best brakes ever... It puts down 290+rwhp STOCK. I don't think Supra lacks anything against G35 in performance. G handles better than Supra? I don't think so. I have owned both cars and Supra is better in every performance aspects.

 

the old days are right around the corner. they'll return...

 

My G currently resides in the same garage as my girl's 92 RX-7.

I'll tell you what, that car is nuts. Love it, pure and simple. Merciless ride, though. It kills Saleen mustangs around here for sh*ts & giggles.
In actuality, RX-7's are pretty good cars, IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM. One of the biggest problems is people used to slap mufflers and intakes on the things, without adjusting the A/F ratio. The ECU in the RX-7 cannot re-adjust automatically, it must be adjusted with a fuel controller of some type. otherwise, it leans out and BOOM.
Now that I've said that, I'll put my foot in my mouth. We have had to replace the engine, tranny, and both turbos on it. It was due to the fact that a previous mechanic put in the wrong thermostat type, and then "test drove" the car until it shut itself down. Blew the seals.
The tranny had to be replaced because another dipsh*t shop did some maintenance on it, and put it back together wrong. To it's credit, tho, the tranny lasted another two years before it gave up the ghost.
The biggest reason I don't care for the thing is finding someone to work on it. One of our local Mazda dealers has outrigt refused to touch it, and says if we bring it in, they'll charge us double labor rate!
Let's here it for pistons instead of rotors!

 

109 compared to 11 for the G....ok, yes better, but I doubt in anyone rational persons book that that is incredibly better, or "owns" it, as some would say.

Handling, I disagree, I've driven both, and owned at 300ZXTT as well, and the G handles better than either of them. No way to prove it, though, so I will just agree to think you are wrong.

I'm not so sure about the 290 rwhp stock. They are 320 at the crank stock, and Supras are notorious for dyno tests where they use bags of ice to cool down the intercooler and other neat little tricks to improve the dyno. I'd go with about 250-260 stock, and easily modified to around 375-400.

But hey, either way, the G is still a great car.

Dave