Smoke puff when breaking...
Hi all,
I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.
I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.
Opinions welcome, flaming OK.
I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.
I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.
Opinions welcome, flaming OK.
^^lol thats not nice 
personally, i would say the more you do it, the little but more damage your doing
so yes, i do think eventually you could have soem problems
i mean if your doing something no one else is then chances are its bad in terms of smoke coming out
good luck, id look more into it

personally, i would say the more you do it, the little but more damage your doing
so yes, i do think eventually you could have soem problems
i mean if your doing something no one else is then chances are its bad in terms of smoke coming out

good luck, id look more into it
Originally Posted by fcarpio
Hi all,
I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.
I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.
Opinions welcome, flaming OK.
I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.
I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.
Opinions welcome, flaming OK.
If you want to drive like a real road racer, teach yourself how to heel-toe and rev match your downshifts.
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Originally Posted by bulldog25
^^Dude i'm glad u could understand what he was talking about doing. I didn't get it until you kind of broke it downfor me. (Guess I need a Starbucks or somehing)

Originally Posted by dothemath
If "hook a second" means putting the tranny into second gear while braking and causing the rears to lock up for a second, then yes you are putting alot of stress on you clutch, tranny and everything else in your drivetrain. Yes you could break something or at least wear your car faster than neccessary. This type of downshifting too severly or in a sweeping curve will also cause your car to spin and well...
If you want to drive like a real road racer, teach yourself how to heel-toe and rev match your downshifts.
If you want to drive like a real road racer, teach yourself how to heel-toe and rev match your downshifts.
not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
Originally Posted by saitcho
not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
Originally Posted by saitcho
not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
I do agree that it is not necessary. I also agree with your first statement that this person is already showing a level of immaturity and should just try and not to hurt himself or others.
I would like to also reiterate that downshifting without rev matching can easily cause a car to spin out of control.
Oh yes, if you can afford a G35 then you can afford to join a group/club that rents tracks out for HPDE events. These are one of the best ways to explore the limits of your skills and your car. Not to say that someone can't be stupid at the track, but at least you have a greater chance of not hurting anyone else.
Last edited by dothemath; Mar 14, 2007 at 10:30 PM.
Originally Posted by dothemath
I don't agree that it is pointless to heel-toe on public roads or at regular street speeds since it can create a very smooth ride for you and your passengers if done correctly while allowing you to keep your car in an optimal gear.
I do agree that it is not necessary. I also agree with your first statement that this person is already showing a level of immaturity and should just try and not to hurt himself or others.
I would like to also reiterate that downshifting without rev matching can easily cause a car to spin out of control.
Oh yes, if you can afford a G35 then you can afford to join a group/club that rents tracks out for HPDE events. These are one of the best ways to explore the limits of your skills and your car. Not to say that someone can't be stupid at the track, but at least you have a greater chance of not hurting anyone else.
I do agree that it is not necessary. I also agree with your first statement that this person is already showing a level of immaturity and should just try and not to hurt himself or others.
I would like to also reiterate that downshifting without rev matching can easily cause a car to spin out of control.
Oh yes, if you can afford a G35 then you can afford to join a group/club that rents tracks out for HPDE events. These are one of the best ways to explore the limits of your skills and your car. Not to say that someone can't be stupid at the track, but at least you have a greater chance of not hurting anyone else.
Under what circumstance do you find it useful to heel-toe while daily driving?
Any time I would like to down shift and brake at the same time and that does not mean at neck braking speeds. It is especially useful when I see that the interstate is blocked by a squadrand of military gunships and I need to do a tire smoking 180 to make my get away
However you drive your manual I am sure is great for you. I heel-toe often and yes I know the difference in heel-toe and rev-matching...and it works for me. Now if I could just lose the gunships that are after me.

However you drive your manual I am sure is great for you. I heel-toe often and yes I know the difference in heel-toe and rev-matching...and it works for me. Now if I could just lose the gunships that are after me.


