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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.

I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.

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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 06:09 AM
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Keep trying and you'll get your answer.
 
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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^^lol thats not nice


personally, i would say the more you do it, the little but more damage your doing

so yes, i do think eventually you could have soem problems

i mean if your doing something no one else is then chances are its bad in terms of smoke coming out

good luck, id look more into it
 
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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yes buy applying added stress on the components you
will wear items out faster. car was not intended for James
Bond type of maneuvers.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fcarpio
Hi all,
I find it very amusing when I am about to brake and hook a second at the same time I hit on the brakes. This locks the rear tires for a fraction of a second producing a chirp and a puff of smoke, just like race car drivers sometimes do. I really like the way it feels when I do it so I wanted to find out if it will hurt my transmission, clutch, brakes, etc.

I think I am a fairly good driver but I wanted to find out if this behavior will eventually damage my beloved G.

Opinions welcome, flaming OK.
If "hook a second" means putting the tranny into second gear while braking and causing the rears to lock up for a second, then yes you are putting alot of stress on you clutch, tranny and everything else in your drivetrain. Yes you could break something or at least wear your car faster than neccessary. This type of downshifting too severly or in a sweeping curve will also cause your car to spin and well...

If you want to drive like a real road racer, teach yourself how to heel-toe and rev match your downshifts.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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^^Dude i'm glad u could understand what he was talking about doing. I didn't get it until you kind of broke it downfor me. (Guess I need a Starbucks or somehing)
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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match those revs
why would you want to lose traction if your not drifting?



heel-toe FTW
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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^^Dude i'm glad u could understand what he was talking about doing. I didn't get it until you kind of broke it downfor me. (Guess I need a Starbucks or somehing)
LMAO..He broke it down
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Hey there, I do the same thing sometimes, approaching a right turn, brake while shifting into second, hit the apex of the turn and gun it, much fun on a leased car
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dothemath
If "hook a second" means putting the tranny into second gear while braking and causing the rears to lock up for a second, then yes you are putting alot of stress on you clutch, tranny and everything else in your drivetrain. Yes you could break something or at least wear your car faster than neccessary. This type of downshifting too severly or in a sweeping curve will also cause your car to spin and well...

If you want to drive like a real road racer, teach yourself how to heel-toe and rev match your downshifts.
I think we'll be hearing about a "money shift" pretty soon if he keeps driving like that.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:08 PM
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not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saitcho
not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
You're right... haha didn't even think about that
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by saitcho
not a good idea to tell ppl to learn heel-toeing if they are already trying this kind of crap and asking here if its a good idea or not. best to just drive the car normally and at the limits of your ability. no reason to heel-toe on public roads unless you're running from the cops or something.
I don't agree that it is pointless to heel-toe on public roads or at regular street speeds since it can create a very smooth ride for you and your passengers if done correctly while allowing you to keep your car in an optimal gear.

I do agree that it is not necessary. I also agree with your first statement that this person is already showing a level of immaturity and should just try and not to hurt himself or others.

I would like to also reiterate that downshifting without rev matching can easily cause a car to spin out of control.

Oh yes, if you can afford a G35 then you can afford to join a group/club that rents tracks out for HPDE events. These are one of the best ways to explore the limits of your skills and your car. Not to say that someone can't be stupid at the track, but at least you have a greater chance of not hurting anyone else.
 

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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dothemath
I don't agree that it is pointless to heel-toe on public roads or at regular street speeds since it can create a very smooth ride for you and your passengers if done correctly while allowing you to keep your car in an optimal gear.

I do agree that it is not necessary. I also agree with your first statement that this person is already showing a level of immaturity and should just try and not to hurt himself or others.

I would like to also reiterate that downshifting without rev matching can easily cause a car to spin out of control.

Oh yes, if you can afford a G35 then you can afford to join a group/club that rents tracks out for HPDE events. These are one of the best ways to explore the limits of your skills and your car. Not to say that someone can't be stupid at the track, but at least you have a greater chance of not hurting anyone else.
The exact definition of "heel-toe" is often very varied among different people. I can smoothly shift without ever "heel-toeing", by which my definition of heel toeing is using my toe to blip the rev while also braking at the same time with my heel and downshifting with my other foot. On public roads, I never need to do all three at the same time except perhaps under the most EXTREME circumstance (like four 18 wheelers are headed towards me and I need to stop and turn and go quickly). Otherwise, I can easily brake, shift to neutral, then rev match and shift into gear in the turn. No need to ever heel-toe there.

Under what circumstance do you find it useful to heel-toe while daily driving?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:10 PM
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Any time I would like to down shift and brake at the same time and that does not mean at neck braking speeds. It is especially useful when I see that the interstate is blocked by a squadrand of military gunships and I need to do a tire smoking 180 to make my get away

However you drive your manual I am sure is great for you. I heel-toe often and yes I know the difference in heel-toe and rev-matching...and it works for me. Now if I could just lose the gunships that are after me.
 
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