Frame Damage
#16
Originally Posted by RC914
So here's what I found on CA. Laws Vehicle codes:
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 9990-9993
9990. For purposes of this chapter, damage sustained by a motor
vehicle is material under any of the following circumstances:
(a) The damage required repairs having a value, including parts
and labor calculated at the repairer's cost, exceeding 3 percent of
the manufacturer's suggested retail price of the vehicle or five
hundred dollars ($500), whichever is greater. The replacement of
damaged or stolen components, excluding the cost of repainting or
refinishing those components, if replaced by the installation of new
original manufacturer's equipment, parts, or accessories that are
bolted or otherwise attached as a unit to the vehicle, including, but
not limited to, the hood, bumpers, fenders, mechanical parts,
instrument panels, moldings, glass, tires, wheels, and electronic
instruments, shall be excluded from the damage calculation, except
that any damage having a cumulative repair or replacement value which
exceeds 10 percent of the manufacturer's suggested retail price of
the vehicle shall be deemed material.
(b) The damage was to the frame or drive train of the motor
vehicle. (c) The damage occurred in connection with a theft of the entire
vehicle.
(d) The damage was to the suspension of the vehicle requiring
repairs other than wheel balancing or alignment.
9991. Every dealer shall disclose in writing to the purchaser of a
new or previously unregistered motor vehicle, prior to entering into
a contract for the vehicle or, if unknown at that time, prior to
delivery of the vehicle, any material damage known by the dealer to
have been sustained by the vehicle and subsequently repaired.
9992. Every dealer shall disclose in writing to the purchaser of a
new or previously unregistered motor vehicle, prior to entering into
a contract for the vehicle or, if unknown at that time, prior to
delivery of the vehicle, any damage, including, but not limited to,
material damage, known by the dealer to have been sustained by the
vehicle and not repaired.
9993. Nothing in this chapter permits any dealer to respond to the
inquiry of a purchaser in any untrue or misleading manner.
For an FYI the dealer did not put anything in writing that there was frame damage what so ever. Would this be a legitimate document to take the car back to the dealer?
VEHICLE CODE
SECTION 9990-9993
9990. For purposes of this chapter, damage sustained by a motor
vehicle is material under any of the following circumstances:
(a) The damage required repairs having a value, including parts
and labor calculated at the repairer's cost, exceeding 3 percent of
the manufacturer's suggested retail price of the vehicle or five
hundred dollars ($500), whichever is greater. The replacement of
damaged or stolen components, excluding the cost of repainting or
refinishing those components, if replaced by the installation of new
original manufacturer's equipment, parts, or accessories that are
bolted or otherwise attached as a unit to the vehicle, including, but
not limited to, the hood, bumpers, fenders, mechanical parts,
instrument panels, moldings, glass, tires, wheels, and electronic
instruments, shall be excluded from the damage calculation, except
that any damage having a cumulative repair or replacement value which
exceeds 10 percent of the manufacturer's suggested retail price of
the vehicle shall be deemed material.
(b) The damage was to the frame or drive train of the motor
vehicle. (c) The damage occurred in connection with a theft of the entire
vehicle.
(d) The damage was to the suspension of the vehicle requiring
repairs other than wheel balancing or alignment.
9991. Every dealer shall disclose in writing to the purchaser of a
new or previously unregistered motor vehicle, prior to entering into
a contract for the vehicle or, if unknown at that time, prior to
delivery of the vehicle, any material damage known by the dealer to
have been sustained by the vehicle and subsequently repaired.
9992. Every dealer shall disclose in writing to the purchaser of a
new or previously unregistered motor vehicle, prior to entering into
a contract for the vehicle or, if unknown at that time, prior to
delivery of the vehicle, any damage, including, but not limited to,
material damage, known by the dealer to have been sustained by the
vehicle and not repaired.
9993. Nothing in this chapter permits any dealer to respond to the
inquiry of a purchaser in any untrue or misleading manner.
For an FYI the dealer did not put anything in writing that there was frame damage what so ever. Would this be a legitimate document to take the car back to the dealer?
now just go down there and talk to them about getting you swapped out for a new one. they'll be happy to do it I'm sure and maybe you can even get them to throw in some service for the inconvenience orother perks.
most dealers want to keep you as a lifetime customer and will generally do whatever they can to make you reasonably happy and keep lawyers out of their door.
#17
So here's the update on my situation. I went the dealer the other day, they pulled up the Carfax and that it said "Frame Damage". So they told me to get a 3rd party to inspect the frame. If the 3rd party says it has frame damage then they said to bring the car back.
Does anybody know any good frame inspection shops around the Bay Area, preferably in the San Jose area?...
Also, does anybody know how accurate is Carfax?
Thanks!
Does anybody know any good frame inspection shops around the Bay Area, preferably in the San Jose area?...
Also, does anybody know how accurate is Carfax?
Thanks!
#18
Originally Posted by RC914
So here's the update on my situation. I went the dealer the other day, they pulled up the Carfax and that it said "Frame Damage". So they told me to get a 3rd party to inspect the frame. If the 3rd party says it has frame damage then they said to bring the car back.
Does anybody know any good frame inspection shops around the Bay Area, preferably in the San Jose area?...
Also, does anybody know how accurate is Carfax?
Thanks!
Does anybody know any good frame inspection shops around the Bay Area, preferably in the San Jose area?...
Also, does anybody know how accurate is Carfax?
Thanks!
they are only as accurate as the shop who performed the service/work to report what they did...so if a mom and pop shop doesn't report it to the DMV or wuteva, it doesn't get logged into carfax...
Last edited by MeetJoeAsian; 05-17-2007 at 03:29 PM.
#21
Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian
Question: Have you contacted the dealership yet????? And what did they tell you?
So, I'm trying to find a decent good Lawyer to help me out... Any Lawyers out there?...
#23
Ask the previous owner for a copy of the shop work. Can't get any better than that.
Originally Posted by RC914
Hey wassup fellow G35Drivers...
So I just found out that my coupe has frame damage from the previous owner. The dealer that I bought this from did not disclose this to me. If a car has frame damage would it be considered salavaged? Also, can I put up a law suit against the dealer I purchased my coupe from?
Any feed back is appreciative...Thanks!
So I just found out that my coupe has frame damage from the previous owner. The dealer that I bought this from did not disclose this to me. If a car has frame damage would it be considered salavaged? Also, can I put up a law suit against the dealer I purchased my coupe from?
Any feed back is appreciative...Thanks!
#26
Originally Posted by civic4982
what damages?
Well, first off I'm sure there is an ENORMOUS amout of mental anguish associated with learning you bought a car with frame damage. Then you have to consider all of the sleep you lost over the deal, and then there is counseling so that you can begin to trust people again.
Then you have court costs, missed work, probably uneven tire wear as a result of the damaged frame. I'm sure a good lawyer can come up with a few other things which require monetary compensation.
Of course it's absolutely rediculous to try to sue for all of these things, but hell, it's the American way so get a lawyer and SUE SUE SUE!
#28
Originally Posted by civic4982
^ sorry in my rush to judgement I didn't realize you were kidding...
good luck convincing a judge that it's legitimate to sue for non-economic damages b/c of a lemon.
good luck convincing a judge that it's legitimate to sue for non-economic damages b/c of a lemon.
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