is our car built at its maxium performance?
is our car built at its maxium performance?
The more i read about this car the more im thinking this car is built at its best already. I still understand the car is still new and not too many radicals have been messing with this car yet but given all the threads ive read so far since i owned this car makes me think the car is at its maxium performance.
We are spending major cash for aftermarkets parts only to recieve a measly 5-10hp gain while other cars such as honda do the same after market part swap with ther oem parts get a 10-20hp gain depending on the part and its still way cheaper.
Are we being foolish to be wasting all this money? I mean we can spend up to $4000 and gain up to 30hp or get forced induction but will need more money for tuning and what not while a honda can spend 4000 and have their car running mad fast. Is there somthing im not getting or am i just getting more mature and wise with the money?
Pleas do not flame, it can be due to my late night posting but i would really like to know whats going on!
We are spending major cash for aftermarkets parts only to recieve a measly 5-10hp gain while other cars such as honda do the same after market part swap with ther oem parts get a 10-20hp gain depending on the part and its still way cheaper.
Are we being foolish to be wasting all this money? I mean we can spend up to $4000 and gain up to 30hp or get forced induction but will need more money for tuning and what not while a honda can spend 4000 and have their car running mad fast. Is there somthing im not getting or am i just getting more mature and wise with the money?
Pleas do not flame, it can be due to my late night posting but i would really like to know whats going on!
Re: is our car built at its maxium performance?
Well... the G35c is almost close to its japanese counterpart Skyline 350gt performance wise... I mean do you see alot of aftermarket parts for Ferrari or Lambos or even Benz cars? I just dont think there is as big of a market out there for more higher end cars. Plus no1 wants a rice rocket G coupe. I ono maybe i dont get your post all too well, but i just believe that if we wanted a super fast car with lots of mods... we would've chose a diff car... a more perfomance rather than luxury car but thats just me
Re: is our car built at its maxium performance?
The car is very well built and provides an attractive combination of luxury and performance, at a remarkable price. Thus, you really do not have to feel that anything need be done to it. You are starting off with 280hp stock. The little Hondas do not. The first time you get in the Honda your impression is that it needs something. A lot of things, to perform.
It is apples and oranges here. IF you want a performance platform that is rabid and low priced, you do something else, like a Subie WRX STi as one example. I personally would not be caught dead in one, unless I was doing a rally race. But as a daily or frequent driver....no can do. It is a great car too, but just really different.
The basic motor n the G/Z is excellent, the exhaust is very high quality, the transmission and drivetrain smooth and reasonably efficient....for the masses it is a great performance value. And that is what sells and makes money and what they MUST do to stay in business. You do not get comparable hp gains from classic mods because the car is so well done to begin with. You are correct on that point.
Having said that, the platform is awesome for mods in my estimation. But it is "next level" mods because at the introductory level it is already so darn good. You can bust your little head any way you want to thinking about how to mod this car, but at "level one", which is fooling with the intake and exhaust and maybe the pulleys, you are going to max out with between 30-40hp gain. That is quite a lot, on top of a lot. But it is not as much as what you might get with less well engineered platforms. Performance level, however, remember that you are working on a 3300lb car, not a 2400lb pie tin. That weight has a big influence on results on the street too.
The big hp gain has to be with FI. The only way to get the "pump" that is an engine to produce more power is to "boost" it with air and fuel. Simple process used for decades. However, that is not for the masses. It is not even for most enthusiasts. But if you really want serious power and performance...think about this. For about $20k, working on FI and a variety of suspension, exhaust, drivetrain and other mods, but not changing out any internals, you take the luxury coupe and turn it into a 450hp beast that has more hp than the TT Porsche, outbrakes and out turns it, (looks are all in the eye of the beholder, but I like them both and do not think the G gives up anything in looks to the big P) and costs about $80k less. And is more pleasant to ride around in. Is it a Porsche?...most certainly not! The AWD on the P gives it some advantages, and the engineering is decidedly more focused for performance out of the box....I have had that car and loved it....but is it worth the difference in price? It is only one person's view, but my view is no, it is not worth the difference. That is a more relevant price to value comparison from my perspective. The marketing line that "There is no substitute" is absolutely true. But.....there is an alternative path that is very very attractive.
Think about this...for the price of the TT you could get a modificed G that would perform very similarly, and still have enough change to get a 4S that was a year old with low miles.
Still disappointed Xenon?
Cpe 6MT/Aero/Prem/ATI/RT cats/Borla hdrs-catbcks/Nismo flywhl-cltch/TS-ECU/Tein flex EDFC/Stillen sways
It is apples and oranges here. IF you want a performance platform that is rabid and low priced, you do something else, like a Subie WRX STi as one example. I personally would not be caught dead in one, unless I was doing a rally race. But as a daily or frequent driver....no can do. It is a great car too, but just really different.
The basic motor n the G/Z is excellent, the exhaust is very high quality, the transmission and drivetrain smooth and reasonably efficient....for the masses it is a great performance value. And that is what sells and makes money and what they MUST do to stay in business. You do not get comparable hp gains from classic mods because the car is so well done to begin with. You are correct on that point.
Having said that, the platform is awesome for mods in my estimation. But it is "next level" mods because at the introductory level it is already so darn good. You can bust your little head any way you want to thinking about how to mod this car, but at "level one", which is fooling with the intake and exhaust and maybe the pulleys, you are going to max out with between 30-40hp gain. That is quite a lot, on top of a lot. But it is not as much as what you might get with less well engineered platforms. Performance level, however, remember that you are working on a 3300lb car, not a 2400lb pie tin. That weight has a big influence on results on the street too.
The big hp gain has to be with FI. The only way to get the "pump" that is an engine to produce more power is to "boost" it with air and fuel. Simple process used for decades. However, that is not for the masses. It is not even for most enthusiasts. But if you really want serious power and performance...think about this. For about $20k, working on FI and a variety of suspension, exhaust, drivetrain and other mods, but not changing out any internals, you take the luxury coupe and turn it into a 450hp beast that has more hp than the TT Porsche, outbrakes and out turns it, (looks are all in the eye of the beholder, but I like them both and do not think the G gives up anything in looks to the big P) and costs about $80k less. And is more pleasant to ride around in. Is it a Porsche?...most certainly not! The AWD on the P gives it some advantages, and the engineering is decidedly more focused for performance out of the box....I have had that car and loved it....but is it worth the difference in price? It is only one person's view, but my view is no, it is not worth the difference. That is a more relevant price to value comparison from my perspective. The marketing line that "There is no substitute" is absolutely true. But.....there is an alternative path that is very very attractive.
Think about this...for the price of the TT you could get a modificed G that would perform very similarly, and still have enough change to get a 4S that was a year old with low miles.
Still disappointed Xenon?
Cpe 6MT/Aero/Prem/ATI/RT cats/Borla hdrs-catbcks/Nismo flywhl-cltch/TS-ECU/Tein flex EDFC/Stillen sways
Re: is our car built at its maxium performance?
The thing is, the G35 motor is built with more precision and initial development than most other cars so simple mods on other cars don't work the same on the G35. Look at the domestic cars, their tolerances are much more loose, their machining isn't as precise and they make quite a bit less power for the same displacement. They are definitely getting better, but most of their new technology is still only put into a few cars/motors (Pontiac GTO/Holden Monaro for example). I mean look at the Chevy Impala or Monte Carlo for example, they're no where near as refined as a G35 when you consider the overall package.
There will be ways to get more power out of the motor, it's just going to take more time for people to find out what works the best. Right now I think quite a few people are holding back, due to the warranty. Wait until the price of a used G35 drops a bit more and the're out of warranty and I'll bet you'll start seeing a lot more tricked out G35's. The aftermarket still needs to catch up a bit too....
Justin McClanahan
Heavily Modified 95 Infiniti G20
Working on a G35 Coupe
www.InfinitiPartsUSA.com
There will be ways to get more power out of the motor, it's just going to take more time for people to find out what works the best. Right now I think quite a few people are holding back, due to the warranty. Wait until the price of a used G35 drops a bit more and the're out of warranty and I'll bet you'll start seeing a lot more tricked out G35's. The aftermarket still needs to catch up a bit too....
Justin McClanahan
Heavily Modified 95 Infiniti G20
Working on a G35 Coupe
www.InfinitiPartsUSA.com
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