Ventilated/cooled seat mod?
#1
Ventilated/cooled seat mod?
Now sorry if perhaps this one has been beat to death somewhere else, I have searched my heart out and could not find anything on this particular topic.
Living in Nebraska, we have both wonderful extremes where heated seats are great but ventilated seats are just as good half the time. Vehicles like my mom's Lexus ES330 have perforated leather (like the G) and ventilated seats. This is perhaps one of the few nitpicky things I could think of that would make this car better... are there any mods or kits that accomplish such a thing?
I know part of it would have to do with the actual construction of the seat, so I'm not even sure if this would be a possibility without extensive modifiation. Last thing I would want to do is screw up the awesome seats in this 'mobile.
Living in Nebraska, we have both wonderful extremes where heated seats are great but ventilated seats are just as good half the time. Vehicles like my mom's Lexus ES330 have perforated leather (like the G) and ventilated seats. This is perhaps one of the few nitpicky things I could think of that would make this car better... are there any mods or kits that accomplish such a thing?
I know part of it would have to do with the actual construction of the seat, so I'm not even sure if this would be a possibility without extensive modifiation. Last thing I would want to do is screw up the awesome seats in this 'mobile.
#5
Well... I'd be willing to try it, but I'd have to see some pics of this M seat...
A straight swap would be easiest but the M seats look like old man recliners... (no offense really) and I LOVE the seats in the G to begin with... so...
Unless any of the M guys buy their vehicles and then immediately post pictures of the underside of the driver's seat out of sheer excitement, someone will probably have to help me out here
My guess is that the switch would be easy to add into the center console, the wiring would be a snap, but the biggest hangup would be moving the air through the seat (specifically the foam) as I'm not sure if the foam itself is perforated or if the G leather is "holy" enough to let sufficient airflow through... I'm also not sure whether it uses the a/c vent to draw air or whether just the fan is necessary...
My guess is that they use a rather large, quiet fan to blow through some ducting (to distribute the air) that travels through holes/perforations in the seat foam, which escapes through the perforations in the leather... really it doesn't have to be a hell of a lot of air, just enough to keep things moving and avoid the dreaded swamp-a$$
I should probably get back to work, but are there any M guys that are willing to take some awkward underside pictures of their ventilated seats?
A straight swap would be easiest but the M seats look like old man recliners... (no offense really) and I LOVE the seats in the G to begin with... so...
Unless any of the M guys buy their vehicles and then immediately post pictures of the underside of the driver's seat out of sheer excitement, someone will probably have to help me out here
My guess is that the switch would be easy to add into the center console, the wiring would be a snap, but the biggest hangup would be moving the air through the seat (specifically the foam) as I'm not sure if the foam itself is perforated or if the G leather is "holy" enough to let sufficient airflow through... I'm also not sure whether it uses the a/c vent to draw air or whether just the fan is necessary...
My guess is that they use a rather large, quiet fan to blow through some ducting (to distribute the air) that travels through holes/perforations in the seat foam, which escapes through the perforations in the leather... really it doesn't have to be a hell of a lot of air, just enough to keep things moving and avoid the dreaded swamp-a$$
I should probably get back to work, but are there any M guys that are willing to take some awkward underside pictures of their ventilated seats?
#6
here's a link to the 2006 M35/M45 FSM. hopefully it'll have the info you need regarding the seat cooling.
http://www.phatg20.net/modules.php?n...ownload&cid=61
http://www.phatg20.net/modules.php?n...ownload&cid=61
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finagle: that is a sweet resource, and it had some pretty extensive diagrams on the wiring and components related to "climate controlled" seating. From the looks of it, on the M, the seat heater and blower motor are connected, meaning both warm and cool (i.e. "car temperature") air are routed through the seat in the same way. I need to get me a few of those motors... I bet they're real cheap (right)
That takes care of part of it, at this point I don't know if the makeup of the M seat is different than the G seat in order to allow better airflow or what...
From the sounds of it, there would be a market for an aftermarket product or at least a mod solution for this sort of thing... hell, it could probably use the OEM switch locations and all... ttrank was this fan kit a universal type of thing?... I might be interested in checking it out...
That takes care of part of it, at this point I don't know if the makeup of the M seat is different than the G seat in order to allow better airflow or what...
From the sounds of it, there would be a market for an aftermarket product or at least a mod solution for this sort of thing... hell, it could probably use the OEM switch locations and all... ttrank was this fan kit a universal type of thing?... I might be interested in checking it out...
#11
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-B...QQcmdZViewItem
According to this auction, a BMW seat ventilator fan looks really unremarkable... I mean, if I knew the CFM/db rating on this fan (flow/noise) it would be incredibly easy to find a comparable unit and vary the fan speed...
According to this auction, a BMW seat ventilator fan looks really unremarkable... I mean, if I knew the CFM/db rating on this fan (flow/noise) it would be incredibly easy to find a comparable unit and vary the fan speed...
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#15
Well, that just about does it... I'll be taking out the seats and seeing exactly what's up under there... who knows, maybe a sweet kit will be to follow
At least I can post pics. My hope is that the G coupe seats are based off the same frame as the M seats or some similar vehicle which has the appropriate mounts and accommodations for the blower motor...
I found a cool IC fan controller that's made specifically to control vehicle seat ventilator fans (go fig) that looks like it may do the trick...
At least I can post pics. My hope is that the G coupe seats are based off the same frame as the M seats or some similar vehicle which has the appropriate mounts and accommodations for the blower motor...
I found a cool IC fan controller that's made specifically to control vehicle seat ventilator fans (go fig) that looks like it may do the trick...