Stock Cat backs good enough?
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Stock Cat backs good enough?
I was talking to a freind today about possibly getting the borla cat-back. My freind thought it would be a waste of money spending that much money on a cat-back when it really doesnt produce that much horse power and to just go with headers and a midpipe for exhuast power. My question is, is the stock catback good enough if i were to get aftermarket headers/midpipe and possible turbo and supercharger later down the road.
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Re: Stock Cat backs good enough?
Measure the back pressure in each segment and the system as a whole [from front O2 sensors back].
For Roughly every 1 inch of HG = 1.0 HP is lost.
14.7 psi = 29.92"HG so 30 HP lost.
Not to say you can get to perfection since even a hollow exhaust system just pipes exiting to the rear might have a total of 4-5-6 psi ~~8-12HP.
http://www.thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/exhaust.shtm.
http://www.cafefoundation.org/aprs/epg.pdf
http://www.triz-journal.com/archives...2004-03-03.pdf
http://www.hv4w.org/info_pdfs/muffled.pdf
Assume 26 HP lost and 8-11 HP minimum so you have 18-15 HP or so ===== variations depending on loudness and emissions [cat convertors] .
For Roughly every 1 inch of HG = 1.0 HP is lost.
14.7 psi = 29.92"HG so 30 HP lost.
Not to say you can get to perfection since even a hollow exhaust system just pipes exiting to the rear might have a total of 4-5-6 psi ~~8-12HP.
http://www.thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/exhaust.shtm.
http://www.cafefoundation.org/aprs/epg.pdf
http://www.triz-journal.com/archives...2004-03-03.pdf
http://www.hv4w.org/info_pdfs/muffled.pdf
Assume 26 HP lost and 8-11 HP minimum so you have 18-15 HP or so ===== variations depending on loudness and emissions [cat convertors] .
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Re: Stock Cat backs good enough?
i hear the borla sounds a lot like stock... ive never heard it in person tho... and i dont think sound clips are that great since its reving in neutral (not under load)
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2004 Black on Black g coupe 6spd.... aluminum pedals, clear corners, z tube, and pop charger. soon to have 19" volk gt-c's and PIAA xtreme whites in the clearance and corners
Houston Texas
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Re: Stock Cat backs good enough?
You can get some Hi-Flow Cats, like I did.
The kinetix will let you keep the stock exhaust note and but make it a little deeper and very slightly louder.
At this point, I'm debating whether I should just get a Y-Pipe or go for a full exhaust.
Kinetix will be selling a Y-Pipe soon and it looks very promising. also the price is very right =)
The kinetix will let you keep the stock exhaust note and but make it a little deeper and very slightly louder.
At this point, I'm debating whether I should just get a Y-Pipe or go for a full exhaust.
Kinetix will be selling a Y-Pipe soon and it looks very promising. also the price is very right =)
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