brake dust!
brake dust!
Hey guys, I've been reading about your experiences w/ the brembos and they all seem great. The brembos on my coupe are functioning fine, however they seem to generate alot of brake dust. Some of you mentioned "bedding" the brakes, but I went to the brembo website and couldn't find anything. Could anyone help me out? Thanks
Re: brake dust!
zeero,
Actually, the issue is with the Brembo brake pad material. Since these are performance brakes, they are made of a softer material (more grip) that tends to generate more dust, etc. There are many posts regarding brake pad options. Many have had positive results with Hawk and EBC Greenstuffs, etc. Just do a search on "brake dust", or Hawk", etc. Personally, I went with the Hawks. Dust has been reduced quite a bit (about 50%), but still noticable. Others have had better results than I have. Performane is very close to stock pads.
The install is quite easy (I believe there is a do-it yourself instruction on this site). Good luck!
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Actually, the issue is with the Brembo brake pad material. Since these are performance brakes, they are made of a softer material (more grip) that tends to generate more dust, etc. There are many posts regarding brake pad options. Many have had positive results with Hawk and EBC Greenstuffs, etc. Just do a search on "brake dust", or Hawk", etc. Personally, I went with the Hawks. Dust has been reduced quite a bit (about 50%), but still noticable. Others have had better results than I have. Performane is very close to stock pads.
The install is quite easy (I believe there is a do-it yourself instruction on this site). Good luck!
04 G35c DP/Willow, aero, prem, guards...
Vortech S/C
R/T cats
Stillen exhaust
JWT clutch & flywheel
Eibach sways
clear corners
brake reservoir cover
grounding wires
Re: brake dust!
I looked quick and didn't see the DIY. I am sure it is here somewhere.
Here is another place to find it (copy & paste link):
http://www.g-owners.com/article_show...nce+Procedures
04 G35c DP/Willow, aero, prem, guards...
Vortech S/C
R/T cats
Stillen exhaust
JWT clutch & flywheel
Eibach sways
clear corners
brake reservoir cover
grounding wires
Re: brake dust!
Bedding is where you take the car up to around 60mph and quickly slow down to 10mph several times in a row, then allow them to cool and do it again. It's something like this. I think my Hawk pads I had on my 350Z had instructions but I threw them away. I'll be buying new Hawk HPS pads soon, because the brake dust is very annoying.
Re: brake dust!
Hello (again) zeero. Her's some more info:
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/...rocedures.html
And the "long" explanation taken from www.hawkperformance.com: "
What is bed-in?
For optimal use of any given brake system, the pads and rotor have to be compatible with each other. The bed-in procedure establishes that compatibility between the pad and rotor. This is achieved by a combination of rubbing speed, temperature, line pressure, and Inertia. Bed-in is also influenced by pad and rotor material chemistries. It is always recommended that only compatible pads and rotors be used in any given application. Bedding in advantages:
1. Gradually heat treats the rotor and eliminates any thermal shock in the rotor.
2. Burn off volatiles and moisture from the resin that is near pad surface. This will eliminate “green fade.”
3. Establish a layer of transfer film about a few microns thick on the rotor surface. Shearing of the film during friction is an effective source of friction force. Otherwise, when using a freshly ground rotor without the transfer film, the main friction force would come from cutting, plowing, or scoring the asperities on the rotor surface. This leads to inconsistent braking effectiveness.
4. Mate the two surfaces to a near perfect geometrical match, so that the contact area is high, and therefore the friction force is increased.
5. The performance of a fresh rotor/fresh pad system would be inconsistent. This is due to ever-changing structures and properties of the two mating materials. Bed-in of pads and rotor will form a stable transfer film.
6. If bedding in procedure is not applied, a stable transfer film may not be established for a long time. In other words, the rotor surface would have to be constantly regenerating a film that is not quite stable for a long time. This effect would reduce the performance and increase the wear. "
04 G35c DP/Willow, aero, prem, guards...
Vortech S/C
R/T cats
Stillen exhaust
JWT clutch & flywheel
Eibach sways
clear corners
brake reservoir cover
grounding wires
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/tech/...rocedures.html
And the "long" explanation taken from www.hawkperformance.com: "
What is bed-in?
For optimal use of any given brake system, the pads and rotor have to be compatible with each other. The bed-in procedure establishes that compatibility between the pad and rotor. This is achieved by a combination of rubbing speed, temperature, line pressure, and Inertia. Bed-in is also influenced by pad and rotor material chemistries. It is always recommended that only compatible pads and rotors be used in any given application. Bedding in advantages:
1. Gradually heat treats the rotor and eliminates any thermal shock in the rotor.
2. Burn off volatiles and moisture from the resin that is near pad surface. This will eliminate “green fade.”
3. Establish a layer of transfer film about a few microns thick on the rotor surface. Shearing of the film during friction is an effective source of friction force. Otherwise, when using a freshly ground rotor without the transfer film, the main friction force would come from cutting, plowing, or scoring the asperities on the rotor surface. This leads to inconsistent braking effectiveness.
4. Mate the two surfaces to a near perfect geometrical match, so that the contact area is high, and therefore the friction force is increased.
5. The performance of a fresh rotor/fresh pad system would be inconsistent. This is due to ever-changing structures and properties of the two mating materials. Bed-in of pads and rotor will form a stable transfer film.
6. If bedding in procedure is not applied, a stable transfer film may not be established for a long time. In other words, the rotor surface would have to be constantly regenerating a film that is not quite stable for a long time. This effect would reduce the performance and increase the wear. "
04 G35c DP/Willow, aero, prem, guards...
Vortech S/C
R/T cats
Stillen exhaust
JWT clutch & flywheel
Eibach sways
clear corners
brake reservoir cover
grounding wires
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