Best/Easiest/Cost Effective Way to 300Hp
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Oh, if you want bang for buck, intake, plenum, hi-flow cats, pulley kit, and TS ecu(so you dont run too lean) would be easier since exhaust tends to be a little expensive.
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Neffster put 246 HP to the wheels with R/T cats, a Popcharger and Ztube, and a Crawford Plenum. This translates to about 301 HP at the flywheel. Total cost, about a grand.
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There is a 17-18% loss of hp through the drive train (from the flywheel to the transmission to the wheels). Thus the 301hp at the flywheel (crank) will be reduced to 246 hp at the rear wheels.
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dennis_said,
Nissan sells cars based on a 280 bhp claim. This claim is when you take the engine out of the car (without the tranny, driveshaft, wheels, etc...) and place it on an engine dyno. The crank (the shaft that sticks out of the engine) mates up to the dyno and yields a measurement 280 hp, according to Nissan.
When you put a car on a dyno jet dyno, you measure the horsepower and torque at the rear wheels. There are paracitic losses due to all of the inertia of the moving (rotating) parts, thus the rear wheel horsepower will read lower than the crank horsepower. Each brand of vehicle will have different losses.
One way to EXTRAPOLATE the crank horsepower is to dyno a completely stock G35 (same make and model is prefered) and extrapolate out the crank horsepower from the dyno's measured results. This method is somewhat crude, but is the easiest way we have of measuring crank horsepower (bhp) without a baseline dyno for comparison purposes (and even that has it's issues).
The stock G35C-6MT (at the Central FL Dyno Day) dynoed just under 230 rwhp, but according to Nissan is 280 bhp. This calculation yields a ~18% paracitic loss. [1.0 - (230 / 280)] * 100% = 18% loss.
Since the stock 6MT had an 18% paracitic loss through the drive train, take 1 / (1 - 0.18) = 1.22 and multiply this by whatever you run on the dyno (for me it was 246.4 rwhp, if I remember right) and you get ~301 bhp.
Does that make sense?
Nissan sells cars based on a 280 bhp claim. This claim is when you take the engine out of the car (without the tranny, driveshaft, wheels, etc...) and place it on an engine dyno. The crank (the shaft that sticks out of the engine) mates up to the dyno and yields a measurement 280 hp, according to Nissan.
When you put a car on a dyno jet dyno, you measure the horsepower and torque at the rear wheels. There are paracitic losses due to all of the inertia of the moving (rotating) parts, thus the rear wheel horsepower will read lower than the crank horsepower. Each brand of vehicle will have different losses.
One way to EXTRAPOLATE the crank horsepower is to dyno a completely stock G35 (same make and model is prefered) and extrapolate out the crank horsepower from the dyno's measured results. This method is somewhat crude, but is the easiest way we have of measuring crank horsepower (bhp) without a baseline dyno for comparison purposes (and even that has it's issues).
The stock G35C-6MT (at the Central FL Dyno Day) dynoed just under 230 rwhp, but according to Nissan is 280 bhp. This calculation yields a ~18% paracitic loss. [1.0 - (230 / 280)] * 100% = 18% loss.
Since the stock 6MT had an 18% paracitic loss through the drive train, take 1 / (1 - 0.18) = 1.22 and multiply this by whatever you run on the dyno (for me it was 246.4 rwhp, if I remember right) and you get ~301 bhp.
Does that make sense?
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I can explain it easier......lets think in Muscle Car terms for a second.
More Air + More Gas = More Fun!!
Pretty intense formula huh, just call me baby einstein...lol
Better to burn out than fade away. '04 G35c, 5at, Prem, Sport, Punk Tunes "TEMPTID"
More Air + More Gas = More Fun!!
Pretty intense formula huh, just call me baby einstein...lol
Better to burn out than fade away. '04 G35c, 5at, Prem, Sport, Punk Tunes "TEMPTID"
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