ppl w/ Work vs-xx 20's help...
#16
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Itasha Coupe
#18
I'm running 235/35 and 255/35 tires with a mild stretch. Depending on how low you are and your camber, you might be able to run wider tires. Im dropped pretty low and have less than a finger gap in the rear, so I can't run 265's without rubbing. If you're not as low as me, you should be able to run those.
#20
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Itasha Coupe
You will not be able to run in-spec camber with Fab's set up. Get offsets in the teens with BBK fitment and call it a day.
The only way you will get deep lips is if you run an aggressive set up (like a -12) with BBK fitment. That will give you a deeper lip, but unless you're willing to run an aggressive set up, then just forget about having deep lips and just run the standard size. I know I did. I could care less how deep my lips are, so long as the wheels look good and I clear a BBK then I'm fine.
Or you could decide to not listen to myself or Fab, who are running similar set up and just tackle it yourself.
If you take the 2nd choice, then I say good luck to you, especially with your limited knowledge of fitment.
I have spoken!
The only way you will get deep lips is if you run an aggressive set up (like a -12) with BBK fitment. That will give you a deeper lip, but unless you're willing to run an aggressive set up, then just forget about having deep lips and just run the standard size. I know I did. I could care less how deep my lips are, so long as the wheels look good and I clear a BBK then I'm fine.
Or you could decide to not listen to myself or Fab, who are running similar set up and just tackle it yourself.
If you take the 2nd choice, then I say good luck to you, especially with your limited knowledge of fitment.
I have spoken!
#25
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From: Houston, TX
well, my car is a dd so i'd rather be as close to 0 camber as possible to keep from buying 20'' tires every 6 or 8 months. being my knowledge of fitment is very limited what specs do you 2 guys think i should run. here's what i have come up with so far.....just need help plugging in the right offsets
20x9 2.5'' lip using Rdisk
20x10 4'' lip using Adisk
or basically silencers setup with less agressive offsets so i can run camber as close to 0 as possible. thanks again for all the help.
20x9 2.5'' lip using Rdisk
20x10 4'' lip using Adisk
or basically silencers setup with less agressive offsets so i can run camber as close to 0 as possible. thanks again for all the help.
#26
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Itasha Coupe
The camber for our cars are not perfectly set at 0 straight from the factory, they come with a bit of negative camber already.
IIRC, the range is something like a -1.8 to a -0.5 or something to be within factory specs.
I would recommend probably recommend +8 to +12 in the front and +12 to +18 in the rear.
I'm +15 all around. Here is a picture of my fitment.
I have both front and rear SPC camber kits and my camber is within spec at a -0.8
Wheel and tire specs are as follows:
F: 20x9.5, +15 | Yoko S-Drive 245/35
R: 20x10.5, +15 | Yoko S-Drive 275/30
IIRC, the range is something like a -1.8 to a -0.5 or something to be within factory specs.
I would recommend probably recommend +8 to +12 in the front and +12 to +18 in the rear.
I'm +15 all around. Here is a picture of my fitment.
I have both front and rear SPC camber kits and my camber is within spec at a -0.8
Wheel and tire specs are as follows:
F: 20x9.5, +15 | Yoko S-Drive 245/35
R: 20x10.5, +15 | Yoko S-Drive 275/30
#27
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From: Houston, TX
so if you are at 15 in the front and your camber is -.08, then lowering the offset would create more neg camber, correct? if thats the case, to achieve 0 camber, i would need the offset to be greater than 15. let me know if im wrong here. btw, thats a nice ride as well. if you ever drive up to the woodlands area let me know. id like to see it in person.
#28
According to the spec sheet off Work's site, the next step down from my offsets would be 9.5 +17 R-disk/ 10.5 +18 A-disc. I'd recommend that. You'll still have some nice lips, be able to fit a bbk, won't have to run much negative camber, and you won't have to worry much about rubbing, if at all. If you feel like going a little more aggressive down the road, you can always put some 10mm spacers on. And use the same tire sizes as konxeptionz.
#29
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Itasha Coupe
^^ +17 and +18 would be good for the set up that you want to do, and with those disc faces so you can clear your brembos. The Volk GT-S come in those offsets and I think they look great. I would follow Fab's advice on that one, since you only want to run semi-aggressive offsets and I would assume, your drop would be mild as well. This is based purely on the fact that those who do run aggressive offsets, also have aggressive drops as well.
Correct me if I'm wrong (anyone that wants to chime in since I'm still learning the fitment game), but I am sure that lowering or changing your offset does not affect your camber, since all an offset does is push your wheels out further from the hub or with higher offsets, tucks them back in towards the wheel well. Lowering your car, raising your car, changing out tires, and wheels will affect your camber since your ride's suspension has changed to something that it was not before.
If you have a question about the factory camber settings and what you need to be at, I do know that Sal or Oscar from Sal's Autosport in Houston, located at Beltway 8 and 290 can help you out and probably better explain it then I can. He's actually the one that taught me about it and explained it thoroughly, since he has worked on MANY MANY G35's/G37's. If you do call, just tell him that Son (pronounced like "sun") told you to give him a ring.
I know for my new future set up when I need to clear a BBK, since I ordered an A-Disc instead of an R-Disc in the front, I will need to run a 15mm spacer just to clear. So I'll be throwing on 15mm spacers all around which will put me at a +0 and to top that off, I'll be stretching my tires and running negative camber so I can clear my fenders. I know I'll need somewhat of an alignment on here, just to get my toe back into spec because your car's toe will affect more of your tire wear then your camber will.
Edit: And I'm hardly ever in the Woodlands area. I actually live in Tomball. I'm generally around the Jersey Village area with a few friends or Beltway 8 and Clay. If you're interested in meeting other G drivers from Houston, you should check out our team forum here:
http://www.strictlygs.com/
We hold meets monthly, so come out and join us and we can talk more about your car. There are other members on the team that can help you out with whatever you'd like to know.
Correct me if I'm wrong (anyone that wants to chime in since I'm still learning the fitment game), but I am sure that lowering or changing your offset does not affect your camber, since all an offset does is push your wheels out further from the hub or with higher offsets, tucks them back in towards the wheel well. Lowering your car, raising your car, changing out tires, and wheels will affect your camber since your ride's suspension has changed to something that it was not before.
If you have a question about the factory camber settings and what you need to be at, I do know that Sal or Oscar from Sal's Autosport in Houston, located at Beltway 8 and 290 can help you out and probably better explain it then I can. He's actually the one that taught me about it and explained it thoroughly, since he has worked on MANY MANY G35's/G37's. If you do call, just tell him that Son (pronounced like "sun") told you to give him a ring.
I know for my new future set up when I need to clear a BBK, since I ordered an A-Disc instead of an R-Disc in the front, I will need to run a 15mm spacer just to clear. So I'll be throwing on 15mm spacers all around which will put me at a +0 and to top that off, I'll be stretching my tires and running negative camber so I can clear my fenders. I know I'll need somewhat of an alignment on here, just to get my toe back into spec because your car's toe will affect more of your tire wear then your camber will.
Edit: And I'm hardly ever in the Woodlands area. I actually live in Tomball. I'm generally around the Jersey Village area with a few friends or Beltway 8 and Clay. If you're interested in meeting other G drivers from Houston, you should check out our team forum here:
http://www.strictlygs.com/
We hold meets monthly, so come out and join us and we can talk more about your car. There are other members on the team that can help you out with whatever you'd like to know.
Last edited by XiN; 09-10-2010 at 12:37 AM.
#30
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From: Houston, TX
so looks like this will be my setup:
20x9.5 +17 Rdisk 245/35
20x10.5 +18 Adisk 275/30
thanks guys for all the help. saved me alot of time and frustration. im sure you can understand the dismay when you spend a good chunk of change on wheels and dont achieve the look or stance you were aiming for.
and i'll check out that website. maybe ill see you and your car at one of the meets when i finally get my car where i want it. just need to get the wheels, tires, hood, and trunk, then ill be set.
20x9.5 +17 Rdisk 245/35
20x10.5 +18 Adisk 275/30
thanks guys for all the help. saved me alot of time and frustration. im sure you can understand the dismay when you spend a good chunk of change on wheels and dont achieve the look or stance you were aiming for.
and i'll check out that website. maybe ill see you and your car at one of the meets when i finally get my car where i want it. just need to get the wheels, tires, hood, and trunk, then ill be set.