Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
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Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
I called Tire Rack last night to inquire about snow tires and I assumed I'd get the LM 22s. However the guy at Tire Rack suggested the WS 50s. He said they're a bit cheaper and better in the snow (but you lose a bit of performance). Does anyone use the Blizzak WS 50s? If so, can I get some feedback? Also, with whatever tires I get, do you suggest I get the wheels (in addition to the tires) or just the tires? Thanks!
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
I have the Blizzak LM22's. They perform excellent on snow and otherwise.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
I ran the LM 22s last winter and will again this year. I thought that the snow perfomance was great. Never got stuck once and I drove a few times that I definitely could have. They handle the snow great. In addition they are decent performance tires when the roads are dry and wet. I never ran the WS 50s so I really cant compare. I run the stock size LM 22s on my stock 18"s. It costs me less then $100 to swap them which is cheaper then buying new wheels for me.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
They perform quite well but in differ ways. The WS-50 is the more aggressive version. They would be the best tires for the worst conditions. You will trade some wear and handling for better snow and ice traction. Works well in rural or harsher environments.
The LM-22 (soon to be replaced with the LM-25) is the more performance based winter tire. Designed for more plowed roads or highways where you still need great snow/ice traction, but want to retain some handling characteristics. Works well in urban or suburb areas. They will handle a wear a bit better than the WS-50, but you will trade some harsher condition traction for it.
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The LM-22 (soon to be replaced with the LM-25) is the more performance based winter tire. Designed for more plowed roads or highways where you still need great snow/ice traction, but want to retain some handling characteristics. Works well in urban or suburb areas. They will handle a wear a bit better than the WS-50, but you will trade some harsher condition traction for it.
*might have been me you talked to *
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
I used the WS-50's on my G-Sedan with great results.
Many up here in Canada have the LM-22's and are happy with them too.
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Many up here in Canada have the LM-22's and are happy with them too.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
The WS-50s are a little better in deeper snow and have a little better traction in ice. The thing I don't like is their dry road handling. They tend to feel a bit 'squirrely' on dry roads, especially in corners and across metal bridge decks, etc.
Separate wheels are always a good idea to reduce change-over costs, and tire bead stress.
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Separate wheels are always a good idea to reduce change-over costs, and tire bead stress.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
WS-50's have a more aggressive tread for snow and ice. They will be better for the LM-22's but the WS-50's have a pretty big drawback. The reason why WS-50's are so amazing in the snow is because the first 55% of the tread have this special "Tube Multicell Compound". This compound is what makes the tires so darn "sticky" in the ice and snow. When 55% of the tread is gone, the remaining 45% acts like a regular snow tire. This isn't a big deal, I guess, but basically these snow tires will take a snow/ice performance hit at the 55% mark and these tires are overall pretty bad in the rain.
I say go with the LM-22's or LM-25's. These tires are DESIGNED for cars like ours (GT Coupes/Sedans with RWD) so they provide really solid dry and wet-road handling while making very little compromise in the snow/ice traction department.
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I say go with the LM-22's or LM-25's. These tires are DESIGNED for cars like ours (GT Coupes/Sedans with RWD) so they provide really solid dry and wet-road handling while making very little compromise in the snow/ice traction department.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
i bought the WS50's last winter, and we had major snowfall here in NY. 6'' of unplowed snow was no problem at all. 50 mph on the highway during a snowstorm, no problem if you drove conservatively (not jerking the wheel suddenly). don't get me wrong, at that speed i was able to determine that the back will still slide out on you. if you misbehave, you'll definitely get slapped in the face. the car does feel really squirrely on dry pavement, and dry road performance...lets just say that phrase is nonexistent in regards to this tire. although i have not tried the other tires to compare, i was very satisfied with these tires. i opted to go with the 17'' wheel and tire package, since i didnt wanna ruin the stock rims with all the salt and sand they put out. another thing to consider is that you will have to get the tires mounted and balanced twice a year. this means twice a year you have to worry about some anus tearing up your rims when they mount the tires onto it (most tire places i.e. Mavis will not assume liability for these things, one of the fools there chipped my caliper and they insisted it was not their fault and would not do anything about it). also, thats about $100 per year for mounting and balancing the tires onto the stock rims. so you figure 2 maybe 3 seasons at most with these tires, you are up to $300 just in mounting and balancing fees alone. then there's the hassle of going to get this done. with the wheel and tire package, you have a dedicated set of rims for the winter, so all you have to do is switch the rims off yourself twice a year for free.those are just a few things to consider. also consider if you want an all around tire like the LM's so you can still drive more spirited on dry roads or just negotiating a snowstorm is your goal. since i have to go work no matter wat the weather conditions (hospitals never close unless they go broke, lol), i needed all the snow traction i could get. good luck in your decision, either way you should be happy.
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Re: Snow tires: Blizzak LM22 or WS 50?
zach0917,
I too am going to be getting Blizzaks. But instead of going with winter wheels, I am going to make my stock 17's the winter wheels. Then next spring I am going to find some used coupe 18's to throw on. Just an idea...
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I too am going to be getting Blizzaks. But instead of going with winter wheels, I am going to make my stock 17's the winter wheels. Then next spring I am going to find some used coupe 18's to throw on. Just an idea...
g4ian
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Re: To the topic poster:
Just to add, if anybody wants to save money on the 18" Infiniti OEM rims, you can get reconditioned rims for around $470 (as opposted to the $840 retail price). They look absolutely perfect and you'll save a couple hundred.
But I guess the best deal is to purchase a set of 4 wheels off of eBay.
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But I guess the best deal is to purchase a set of 4 wheels off of eBay.
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My Ride: 03 G35 Coupe 6MT Black/Black
My Mods: 15% tint
My Mileage: 12,510 (as of 10/8/04)