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Alignment = Toe set to zero?

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Old 10-12-2010 | 12:11 PM
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Alignment = Toe set to zero?

I'm dropped on DF210s with no camber kits. I run about -2.5 camber front and rear.

I changed my shocks again so I am getting an alignment.

Do I request my toe set as close to zero as possible?

I am just looking for the best settings to preserve tires and road noise. I'll be running Neogens to help deal with the negative camber.

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Old 10-12-2010 | 12:18 PM
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Search around, there are the factory service manuals specifying factory settings but most places have access to these as well. As far as setting toe to zero, most people don't because our cars came with some toe in from the factory. But there are a few who do run zero toe but that's mostly because they do a lot of driving and care more about tire life.
 
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Old 10-12-2010 | 12:25 PM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read somewhere that you want to dial in a little bit of positive toe to counter the camber. The more toe you have the less uneven wear you get from camber.
 
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Old 10-12-2010 | 12:47 PM
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^^ Right. That is the reason for my question. I can't change my camber b/c I dont have kits. So I wanted to know if toe should be set as close to zero as possible for best tire wear. I dont care about handling, I want tire life and I need the camber due to my drop.
 
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Old 10-12-2010 | 12:54 PM
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If you really want tire life then you should invest in camber kits to save your tires, it may seem like a lot of money now but with the price of our tires it will quickly pay itself off. Plus there is no way you should need -2.5 degrees all around with just a springs drop unless you are running very thick tires and ohellaflush, I run about the same as that if not less and I am dropped lower on coils.
 
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Old 10-12-2010 | 01:04 PM
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I would set 'toe' as close to zero as possible. You want all tires as close to parallel as possible. Meaning all 4 tires are straight and parallel to one another. Since you're running neogens, camber shouldn't be an issue. As they are running "harder" rubber on the inner wheels.

So set your toe as close to zero as possible. Toe effects tire wear more-so than camber.

Also, if your suspension parts are wearing out such as bushings, ball joints, etc etc. It'll will also cause the tires to wear out prematurely. And the G's are known for crappy suspension. There a TSB on the compression rod / bushings also.

Parallel

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Toe out

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Toe in

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Front Toe in, and Rear toe is close to zero

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Old 10-12-2010 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jibberjabbers
I would set 'toe' as close to zero as possible. You want all tires as close to parallel as possible. Meaning all 4 tires are straight and parallel to one another.
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Why?
 
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Old 10-12-2010 | 01:11 PM
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I meant all 4 wheels should be as straight as possible. (Toe near 0)..
 
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Old 10-13-2010 | 08:33 PM
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let us know your final numbers

im curious to know if you can achieve front toe 0 dropped with no camber kits
 
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Old 10-17-2010 | 01:38 PM
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Just had my toe set at a Nissan dealership. The factory setting was suppose to be 0.04 and my left tire was 0.76 and my right tire was 0.67. One of my back tires was off too. That's why my front tires were only lasting about 5000 miles. I also heard a roar before the alignment was done. Now it's gone and the car drives alot smoother and quieter.
 
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Old 10-17-2010 | 01:52 PM
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if you're running a lot of camber, you can have a smidgen of toe-in to compensate but it wouldnt really make much of a difference.

I currently have -3.2 degrees camber all around with zero toe and I'm getting the same amount of life out of my tires. (with flipping them)
 
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Old 10-17-2010 | 10:33 PM
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Sounds good, man your car is riding the ground lol.
 
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Old 10-18-2010 | 12:20 PM
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Toe changes with speed. On a RWD car, the fronts will move out and the rears will move in. For the best wear on the fronts set it to max toe-in spec of .08°. At highway speeds that should be about zero toe. Both the G and the 350Z will eat up inside front tires if the toe isn't set right. The 350Z has a TSB describing this: NTB04-043a.
 
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Old 10-18-2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon1978
Toe changes with speed. On a RWD car, the fronts will move out and the rears will move in. For the best wear on the fronts set it to max toe-in spec of .08°. At highway speeds that should be about zero toe. Both the G and the 350Z will eat up inside front tires if the toe isn't set right. The 350Z has a TSB describing this: NTB04-043a.
Agreed i ran into this problem when i drop on coilovers and when threw 1400$ worth of tires in 6 months...
 
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Old 10-18-2010 | 02:49 PM
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^ where on earth did you spend $1400 on tires?

I haven't spent more than 900
 
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