It's possible, but I don't see a 14.0 anywhere. Stop talking in theoretics. If you're such a good driver, YOU go out and do it (since you're apparently a great driver).

I clearly stated under "normal circumstances", but yet you have to talk in theoretics, and have no substance to back up your proof. Besides, your argument is invalid anyway, "normal circumstances" would include a "normal" aka average to above average driver. Since when does "normal" refer to just one aspect of something? The drivers reaching near 14.0 or under are clearly more than that, as the next fastest times both on here, and other reputable sources are 14.2. Also, "sure it might be a nice cold morning with warmed up tires". Yeah, so a colder than average morning, plus warmed up tires (a variable which the driver directly controlled). Not quite normal yet not quite abnormal.

Your argument is meritless because:

1. You talk in theoretics with no proof
2. If under normal circumstances a 14.0 is a cake walk, then why hasn't it been documented? (A 14.0 hasn't even been documented at all for that matter, we're talking about a COUPE, remember?) You're talking about the few special drivers who may be able to do so (not your normal average driver).

And referring to your previous post, where is the magazine that says 14.0? (don't pull something out your other end again, zeroto60times.com just pulls data from wherever it can).

If you want to keep a discussion, maybe you should learn to comprehend clear, idiomatic English as you have shown unable to do so. I'll even bold, underline, and spell it out for you.

NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES (track conditions, driver, car, tires, EVERYTHING)

 

The car is competitive in todays market considering you can buy one for $10-17k and it comes with rwd, 280-300hp, hids, leather, reliable and relatively cheap to fix. People forget a v6 camry and v6 accord start at $28k to $31k. If you really want to compare a 10yr old car to todays cars then you should also look at them from a price stand point as well.

With the improvement of suspension technology and tire technology, a v6 accord can probably out perform a lot of sports cars from 20yrs.

Also given today's safety standards, 3300lbs is pretty much the median unless your speaking of two seater cars or your talking about all carbon fiber hyper cars.

 

I completely agree with your price stand point. I just threw the camry and accord out there because the OP wanted cars that would rival the G (in terms of straight-line speed, anyway), and to show that common cars out on the road not exactly considered to be speed demons will compete with if not beat us.

 

What is this arbitrary normal conditions crap? Best conditions are the only true measurement of the car's abilities, best possible weather, best driver, best track conditions. In an ideal world, cars would all be directly compared in the same exact conditions with the same drivers multiple times to really gauge it.

"Normal" conditions doesn't mean a single thing. What's normal? Normal California, normal florida, normal antartica, normal africa? Normal winter? Normal Summer? Normal sea level? You can't possibly choose a normal condition to try to compare, sub 14.0 is very likely in "great" conditions, while in non-ideal conditions the car is probably up towards 17+.

And average driver? What in the world does that mean? You always would test quarter mile times on the best possible driver on the best possible run available. If you were to test all the drivers on this forum and average it out I bet the average would be >16 sec. How does that tell the capabilities of these cars? The vast majority of drivers can't push this car anywhere near its limits, but does that mean the car is that slow? No.

You were arguing that 14.0 was not possible, which we already have proof that it is possible. I never claimed I could drive a 14.0, I stated that it has been shown possible with our cars without mods that would grant additional hp/torque/etc.

I'm not even going to bother trying to prove how you are wrong, since when you were shown verified members times of 14 sec you dismissed it as "non-normal". If you want normal, assume our average drivers in the 16++ sec quarter miles, and you might as well also assume the average 5at driver is faster than the average 6mt driver as well.

 

I still think its one of the best looking cars nissan has ever made. I personally think Japanese car styling peaked at 2006. It has the right combination of curves and straight aggressive lines. I hate how the new infiniti's have that bubble styling, it makes the car too feminate, even the new Q50 looks like a bubble car.

I'm not sure about everyone else, but lot of girls i meet i would say between the 18-30yr range still thinks the car looks really hot. They dont know what kind of car it is but I always get compliments on the car every so often.

 

Lol I like the 18+ statement haha. But ya, definitely a great looking car that has a bit of pep to it and gets a ton of compliments.

 

Of course the best of conditions are ideal. Let's replace normal with average (maybe an error in terminology on my part) What I am saying is that your average driver (not just from a pool of all G35 owners, your average driver experienced on the track), in average conditions (not in Antarctica, not in the "sahara desert", not in Denver either). I'm not denying that the best conditions and the best driver should be used to test a car and its capabilities, and that stock g35 coupe is unable to do a 14.0 I never have argued against that, my main argument from the start was that a stock g35 coupe with normal/average circumstances, driver (an average driver from the pool of people who take their G to the track), etc. will not run a 14.0. With favorable conditions and an exceptional driver, sure it can be done, I never have argued it's not possible. I'm talking normal/average.

 

Ok, well in that case, I'm fairly sure you can expect probably anywhere from ~14.0 from the few great drivers, ~14.7 - ~18 for the average "decent" drivers and of course probably the majority 18+++ since very few people have any type of track experience.

Also in this average scenario I would bet my money on the average 5at driver vs the 6mt drivers as well for the average faster time.

Needless to say racing the majority of new cars (>4 cylinders) on the road, especially most being fairly quick automatics, we are likely to lose to the majority haha. But our cars are nice looking and fun, so who really cares who can go faster.

 

I agree, my point all along was that the average driver in average conditions would not run a 14.0. That's all. ...but anyway back on topic OP, new Civic Si's aren't far behind

 

Glad we can come to an agreement

New Si's are definitely quick, but even though similar new cars may be faster than our cars, I still feel the rwd vs fwd as well as the general feel of our cars makes them not feel as slow and just generally improves the driving experience and feel.

But then if you compare to something like a similar year or even a bit older m3, there is really no comparison. But at least we don't have the huge maintenance costs and crazy issues such as their subframe problems O_O

 

 

2013 Accord V6 6MT

5.6 0-60
14.0 1/4

2003 G35 Coupe 6MT

5.83 0-60
14.23 1/4

Didn't use Car and Driver for the G because their times were slow.

 

2012 camry se : Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 101 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

another 2012 se: 14.2 sec @ 100.6 mph
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ry_first_test/

accord coupe ex v6: Standing 1/4-mile: 14.5 sec @ 98 mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...-v-6-road-test
also note this is the old generation accord that is comparable to our cars, the new ones are even faster.

The se camry is likely faster than our car and the accord is at best a driver's race.

 

03 g35 coupe....http://www.zeroto60times.com/Infinit...mph-Times.html
0-60mph 5.4 seconds....1/4mile 14.0 seconds

 

I guess you didn't read my previous posts lol..

zeroto60times.com isn't a reliable source. They just scavenge the internet for data wherever it may be and post it. Not reliable. Don't you think that it's odd how they're the only site listing the G35 coupe as a 5.4 0-60 and 14.0 quarter mile runner? Their numbers are inaccurate, do not use them.