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Car Theft

Old Feb 3, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Car Theft

I just got this from a friend of mine and thought you all might like to see.

Interesting, what will they think of next?


Seems that car thieves have found yet another way to steal your car or
truck
without any effort at all. The car thieves peer through the windshield
of
your
car or truck, write down the VIN # from the label on the dash, go to
the
local car dealership and request a duplicate key based on the VIN #.


I didn't believe this e-mail, so I called a friend at Chrysler Dodge
and
pretended I had lost my keys. They told me to just bring in the VIN #,
and
they
would cut me one on the spot, and I could order the keyless device if I
wanted.


The Car Dealer's Parts Department will make a duplicate key from the
VIN #,
and collect payment from the thief who will return to your car. He
doesn't
have
to break in, do any damage to the vehicle, or draw attention to
himself.
All
he has to do is walk up to your car, insert the key and off he goes to
a
local
Chop Shop with your vehicle.


You don't believe it? It IS that easy.


To avoid this from happening to you, simply put some tape (electrical
tape,
duct tape or medical tape) across the VIN Metal Label located on the
dash
board. By law, you cannot remove the VIN, but you can cover it so it
can't
be
viewed through the windshield by a car thief.


I urge you to forward this to your friends before some other car thief
steals
another car or truck.


Slip a 3 x 5 card over the VIN #.




Robert E. Ferguson
Department of Transportation
Traffic Division
417 E. Fayette St. / Rm 620
Baltimore, MD 21202
 
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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This is old crap, stop passing it around. Send it to your list of unlucky e-mail friends but don't bother anyone else, please!
http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...hieves_vin.htm
 
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Thanks dude...it was new to me. I guess I should spend all day on-line so I can keep up with you!
 
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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that sounds pretty lame....i would think that the dealers would at least ask for i.d. and verify other information. come on.....my infiniti dealer even asks for my i.d. when i bring my car in for service. the dealer would be opening themselves up for a lot of legal troubles if that was the case.

reminds me of that urban legend that all my college friends swore on that if your roommate dies, you'll get straight A's that quarter given to you due to emotional stress.....lol
 
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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even if you block out the vin, most states have registration and inspection stickers in the window... and by law, you can not obstruct the view of those.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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Doesnt work like that
This is just regurgiated horse sht
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Even if this were true ( ) I don't think it is legal to cover your VIN number.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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So how would they get the key to talk to the vehicle? The keys are "chipped" so that they can't be duplicated w/o a special number. This number isn't VIN related.

Don't even need to search the internet all day long, just use your noodle (as they say on the Disney Channel).

..."do the noodle dance."
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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On the G the car must be present as well as the new key and the old keys so they can all be programed at the same time. They can not program a new key without the car being present.

This may have worked in older cars that did not have a chipped key, but it will not work on the G.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TopTech
This is old crap, stop passing it around. Send it to your list of unlucky e-mail friends but don't bother anyone else, please!
http://urbanlegends.about.com/librar...hieves_vin.htm
Hey bro, this is NOT an urban legend. We did it here at work. We have 4 employees here at an apartment complex and 1 of them went on vacation with her boyfriend. She left her car here as she was with her BF and she forgot to roll 1 of her windows up. It was just the beggining of summer so we get crazy thunderstorms that dump loads of rain. Anyways 1 of the residents called our office and said she saw that her neighbor left the window open and asked if we knew who it was..of course we asked what kind of car. She told us it was a silver acura integra. We knew right there it was hers, so I went to the car and wrote down the Vin# and we went to Ticher Acura and told them we needed a key. They cut it and charged us $20 something dollars. They just looked at my bosses ID (didn't copy it) and gave her the key and a reciept.So it's not BS we did it!
True it won't work on chipped cars but they could take all your stuff.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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wnt1bd,
if what you say is true (and i'm believing you), then that dealer needs to train and educate its employees. because, at the least, the dealer should require i.d. and registration and for those two to match up. if not, they can be sued big time!!!!
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Not true..

Most dealers (I would hope so..) need to check several Identifications before giving you a duplicate key

For one, VIN is only useful for identifying the vehicle. License, Registration and even Insurance papers need to be shown to identify the owner. Also, most dealers have the ability to search National account to get more personal information of the owner to verify the information

Lastly, I would like to believe that nowadays and the new technology , first off you need to program the key with the vehicle present. If im not mistakened, if you lose all your keys, and want to get a new one.. you'll actually have to get your car towed to the dealership or have the service tech come to your car.

but my true opinion, is theres only so much you can do to prevent someone trying to steal your car. In regards to this story, its believable but thats only because chances are, either the Dealer isnt doing their job right checking the ID or the someone there is in on it, working together to steal your ride.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by wnt1bd
Hey bro, this is NOT an urban legend. We did it here at work. We have 4 employees here at an apartment complex and 1 of them went on vacation with her boyfriend. She left her car here as she was with her BF and she forgot to roll 1 of her windows up. It was just the beggining of summer so we get crazy thunderstorms that dump loads of rain. Anyways 1 of the residents called our office and said she saw that her neighbor left the window open and asked if we knew who it was..of course we asked what kind of car. She told us it was a silver acura integra. We knew right there it was hers, so I went to the car and wrote down the Vin# and we went to Ticher Acura and told them we needed a key. They cut it and charged us $20 something dollars. They just looked at my bosses ID (didn't copy it) and gave her the key and a reciept.So it's not BS we did it!
True it won't work on chipped cars but they could take all your stuff.
this is all new to me... but... i'm confused somewhat. don't all new cars come with a tag thingy (sorry not sure what it's exactly called) with the keys that has it's own unique numbers. you've probably seen it on one of the sets u receive from the dealer. i know it came with my '05... and i remember the dealer specifically telling me not to lose it. they said it's needed for generating a duplicate key (maybe for the chip on the key or something??). as far as i know... this number is not part of the vin... soooo... how can the key be duplicated properly with just the vin? also... if it were really that easy, i'm sure other publications would have picked up on it. did that model integra use a chip to start the car? or was it just an ordinary key? this thread really caught my interest for some reason.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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I know it's hard to believe and I don't need to make believers out of anyone, I'm just saying I know from personal expirience that my boss and I got a key for one of my co-workers cars just by simply using the VIN #. I'm not some lil kid trying to BS anyone. The name of the dealership that gave us the key is Tischer Acura/Nissan. It's located in Laurel, MD. I work about a half mile away. They didn't even question us. We gave them the Vin and said we need to get a key. That was it. It was scary. I would be HIGHLY pissed off if I knew that someone got a key for my car and did the same thing. Like I said the chips make it nice so they can't drive the car but it still let's them in.

I don't know how that got a key from a Vin, but the guy gave it to us and it worked. I must assume that she must have bought the car from there and maybe all the info is stored in her deal file??
 

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Old Feb 4, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Angry

I always enjoy reading NEFSTER replys.
Does anybody know anybody that has had there G35 stolen?
I asked my Farmers agent and when he called me back he said he could not find anything yet. He said the car is still to new and most people still have loans on the cars and have to have insurance on them. Its when dirt bags without insurance get there hands on cars and smash them up.They steal cars for parts.
 
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