? for all the DIY oil guys...
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? for all the DIY oil guys...
I was just wondering what set up/combinations you guys are using for the oil and the oil filter. Dino preferably but if you want to add your 2 cents thats cool. I would like to hear a clear recommendaton and stick to it from here on out for al my changes.
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m1 5w-30 & K&N.
but if youre doing <4K intervals, a good dino is fine. Blackstone reports show that 3K intervals with syn is pretty much a waste. The wear is fairly comparable. I run syn out of habit and I think it probably pumps alittle quicker on startup. But the facts are Blackstone reports and they show that if you choose a good dino, you'd still get the same 200K out of your VQ.
but if youre doing <4K intervals, a good dino is fine. Blackstone reports show that 3K intervals with syn is pretty much a waste. The wear is fairly comparable. I run syn out of habit and I think it probably pumps alittle quicker on startup. But the facts are Blackstone reports and they show that if you choose a good dino, you'd still get the same 200K out of your VQ.
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m1 5w-30 & K&N.
but if youre doing <4K intervals, a good dino is fine. Blackstone reports show that 3K intervals with syn is pretty much a waste. The wear is fairly comparable. I run syn out of habit and I think it probably pumps alittle quicker on startup. But the facts are Blackstone reports and they show that if you choose a good dino, you'd still get the same 200K out of your VQ.
but if youre doing <4K intervals, a good dino is fine. Blackstone reports show that 3K intervals with syn is pretty much a waste. The wear is fairly comparable. I run syn out of habit and I think it probably pumps alittle quicker on startup. But the facts are Blackstone reports and they show that if you choose a good dino, you'd still get the same 200K out of your VQ.
sorry for the stupid question..but what is dino?
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All the information you asked for, courtesy of the folks over on www.maxima.org
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 (metal cap)
Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (cardboard...AVOID)
I use the M1-110 filter over the M1-108 direct replacement for its larger size. We can debate size and filtration and back pressure...it boils down to personal preference. Forget the cost...just get a good filter.
I would recommend, based on what I've read, to not switch to synthetic until after 10,000 miles. I switched to synthetic (Mobil 5W-30 after my first oil change @ 3000 mi) submitted it for analysis and evrything looks good. to be safe, just stick to dino until 10,000 miles.
Vinh
"Recommended oils for all Maxima engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
Dino and "Blend" oils:
Castrol GTX 5W/30
Chevron Supreme 5W/30
Mobil 1 Drive Clean 5W/30
Mobil 1 Drive Clean Plus 5W/30
Pennzoil PureBase 5W/30
ULX-110 5W/30
Drain Interval: Up to 5k
Synthetic oil:
Amsoil TSO Series 2000 0W/30 Synthetic
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5W/30
Amsoil ASF 5W/30 Synthetic
Redline 5W/30
Drain interval: Up to 10k with oil filter change halfway through chosen interval (i.e. 8k drain interval -> 4k oil filter change)
NOTE: For hot climates (i.e. south), 10W/30 can be substituted and in colder climates (i.e. north), 0W/30 can be substituted.
Oils to stay away from IF going over 3,000 mile intervals:
Any Valvoline Oil (consistent sub-par analysis results, all tend to shear down real quickly; additive packages are inferior to other brands)
Castrol Syntec Blend Castrol Syntec Full Synthetic Oil [NOT GTX] (consistent so-so to sup-part analyses results and shady marketing practices)
Royal Purple Oil (thins in viscosity relatively quickly and too expensive considering there are other synthetic oils that do not thin as fast that are less expensive)
NOTE: These oils will protect fine up to 3,000 miles, they just don't represent a good value based upon their additive package and/or their oil analysis reports for Maxima-specific engines. It does not mean they "suck".
Recommended Oil Filters for VQ engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
Mobil 1 M1-105 (fits VQ35DE only)
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 ONLY (for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
Mobil 1 M1-110 (fits both VQ engines, but bypass valve isn't as good as M1-105 filter)
Amsoil SDF-20 (fits both VQ engines)
Oil Filters to avoid:
Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (specified for VQ35DE by Nissan dealer; refuse to purchase this filter as it has cardboard endcaps like low quality Fram filters; insist on the dealer using the 15208-9E000 oil filter as it has a better overall construction quality)
STP S6941 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; Some fitment issues on VQ35DE engines, so only VQ30DE engines should use this one)
Bosch 3323 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
Any SuperTech filter (Due to production change in mid-2003 to Mexico that has resulted in inferior quality)
Any filter made by Fram (consistently poor construction quality)
Amsoil SDF-13 (pricier than SDF-20 and smaller)
Mobil 1 M1-108 (pricier than M1-110 and smaller)
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 (metal cap)
Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (cardboard...AVOID)
I use the M1-110 filter over the M1-108 direct replacement for its larger size. We can debate size and filtration and back pressure...it boils down to personal preference. Forget the cost...just get a good filter.
I would recommend, based on what I've read, to not switch to synthetic until after 10,000 miles. I switched to synthetic (Mobil 5W-30 after my first oil change @ 3000 mi) submitted it for analysis and evrything looks good. to be safe, just stick to dino until 10,000 miles.
Vinh
"Recommended oils for all Maxima engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
Dino and "Blend" oils:
Castrol GTX 5W/30
Chevron Supreme 5W/30
Mobil 1 Drive Clean 5W/30
Mobil 1 Drive Clean Plus 5W/30
Pennzoil PureBase 5W/30
ULX-110 5W/30
Drain Interval: Up to 5k
Synthetic oil:
Amsoil TSO Series 2000 0W/30 Synthetic
Mobil 1 SuperSyn 5W/30
Amsoil ASF 5W/30 Synthetic
Redline 5W/30
Drain interval: Up to 10k with oil filter change halfway through chosen interval (i.e. 8k drain interval -> 4k oil filter change)
NOTE: For hot climates (i.e. south), 10W/30 can be substituted and in colder climates (i.e. north), 0W/30 can be substituted.
Oils to stay away from IF going over 3,000 mile intervals:
Any Valvoline Oil (consistent sub-par analysis results, all tend to shear down real quickly; additive packages are inferior to other brands)
Castrol Syntec Blend Castrol Syntec Full Synthetic Oil [NOT GTX] (consistent so-so to sup-part analyses results and shady marketing practices)
Royal Purple Oil (thins in viscosity relatively quickly and too expensive considering there are other synthetic oils that do not thin as fast that are less expensive)
NOTE: These oils will protect fine up to 3,000 miles, they just don't represent a good value based upon their additive package and/or their oil analysis reports for Maxima-specific engines. It does not mean they "suck".
Recommended Oil Filters for VQ engines, ranked in order of preference based upon my own observations:
Mobil 1 M1-105 (fits VQ35DE only)
Nissan OEM 15208-9E000 ONLY (for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
Mobil 1 M1-110 (fits both VQ engines, but bypass valve isn't as good as M1-105 filter)
Amsoil SDF-20 (fits both VQ engines)
Oil Filters to avoid:
Nissan OEM 15208-65F00 (specified for VQ35DE by Nissan dealer; refuse to purchase this filter as it has cardboard endcaps like low quality Fram filters; insist on the dealer using the 15208-9E000 oil filter as it has a better overall construction quality)
STP S6941 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; Some fitment issues on VQ35DE engines, so only VQ30DE engines should use this one)
Bosch 3323 (Production change in mid-2003 to Mexico has created inferior quality; for all VQ30DE and VQ35DE engines)
Any SuperTech filter (Due to production change in mid-2003 to Mexico that has resulted in inferior quality)
Any filter made by Fram (consistently poor construction quality)
Amsoil SDF-13 (pricier than SDF-20 and smaller)
Mobil 1 M1-108 (pricier than M1-110 and smaller)
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German Castrol 0w-30
drsifu1,
First thanks for you writeup, very informative.
Your comments on Castrol Synthetic, does it include German Castrol 0w-30 ? It seems a number of people have had outstanding results running this oil in VQ35DE engines. Do a search on bobistheoilguy.com. Do you have any experiance with this oil ?
I am planning on taking over the OC's on my wifes G35 Sedan from the dealer and was planning on using this oil. I live in New England so 0w-30 should be fine..
First thanks for you writeup, very informative.
Your comments on Castrol Synthetic, does it include German Castrol 0w-30 ? It seems a number of people have had outstanding results running this oil in VQ35DE engines. Do a search on bobistheoilguy.com. Do you have any experiance with this oil ?
I am planning on taking over the OC's on my wifes G35 Sedan from the dealer and was planning on using this oil. I live in New England so 0w-30 should be fine..
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I like royal purple, but that's only synthetic, for dino i'd probably stick with mobil.
And I personally only use OEM filters, have in my Nissan's for as long as I've owned them. They're very good filters.
15208-9E000 is longer than the 65F00 and they're the same price and everything, that's all I use now.... Mobil filters aren't bad, but they're a little more expensive and I always change the oil regularly and have never had an issue with the OEM filter.
And I personally only use OEM filters, have in my Nissan's for as long as I've owned them. They're very good filters.
15208-9E000 is longer than the 65F00 and they're the same price and everything, that's all I use now.... Mobil filters aren't bad, but they're a little more expensive and I always change the oil regularly and have never had an issue with the OEM filter.