Trade my 03' Coup for 05' Boxster?
#17
Originally Posted by Buddha
the m3 convertible is acutally available in the SMG transmission. Its the best of two worlds. Its an automatic transmission with a computer clutch.
The SMG almost got me into a 330ci instead of the G.
I have a screwed up left knee & can no longer tolerate a
6m in traffic
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Sure the '05 S is the way to go, but if you are choosing not to afford it, well hey, the standard issue Boxster is still awesome. Even in standard trim, the level of performance of the new Boxster exceeds that found in our Gs. Not as utile, but for sporting pleasure, I think those who know would agree. Emphasis on new '05 model for those comments btw.
As for ATs watering things down, yeah, the Maclaren SLR and its 5AT tiptronic are watered down, I'm sure. Though I will never get a chance to drive one, that's what it looks like to me in the videos I've seen. 0-60 in less than 4 seconds. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Porsche was first to employ tiptronic ATs in mass production, to my knowledge. They've definitely perfected the technology (actually Infiniti has done a great job too). Mercedes employs it rather than manuals or electrohydraulically controlled clutches (aston martin, bmw, ferrari) because harnessing 600 hp is a wee bit of a chore (say in a CL65 AMG, which also has 738 ft.lbs of torque!) for a direct mechanical connection, and doesn't jive with the company philosphy (very few ehcc boxes are smooth, even today- just read the 4 season comments on the Z4's SMG in one of this month's mags). The M5 is not available in a standard. It seems pretty watered down. Ferrari has been quoted as saying the 90% of the F430s sold will be ordered with the F1 box. The Enzo was never sold with a manual. Both Porsche and BMW are looking at corporate variations of Audi's DSG for upcoming models.
For anyone thinking the Boxster is a chick car, wave your pink scarf at them as you blow their doors off. The Boxster is killer, perhaps one of the most beautiful designs put to sheet metal, even better in its second iteration. And has performance to back up the looks. Don't let anyone try and convince you otherwise.
As for ATs watering things down, yeah, the Maclaren SLR and its 5AT tiptronic are watered down, I'm sure. Though I will never get a chance to drive one, that's what it looks like to me in the videos I've seen. 0-60 in less than 4 seconds. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Porsche was first to employ tiptronic ATs in mass production, to my knowledge. They've definitely perfected the technology (actually Infiniti has done a great job too). Mercedes employs it rather than manuals or electrohydraulically controlled clutches (aston martin, bmw, ferrari) because harnessing 600 hp is a wee bit of a chore (say in a CL65 AMG, which also has 738 ft.lbs of torque!) for a direct mechanical connection, and doesn't jive with the company philosphy (very few ehcc boxes are smooth, even today- just read the 4 season comments on the Z4's SMG in one of this month's mags). The M5 is not available in a standard. It seems pretty watered down. Ferrari has been quoted as saying the 90% of the F430s sold will be ordered with the F1 box. The Enzo was never sold with a manual. Both Porsche and BMW are looking at corporate variations of Audi's DSG for upcoming models.
For anyone thinking the Boxster is a chick car, wave your pink scarf at them as you blow their doors off. The Boxster is killer, perhaps one of the most beautiful designs put to sheet metal, even better in its second iteration. And has performance to back up the looks. Don't let anyone try and convince you otherwise.
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#21
Originally Posted by derek
For anyone thinking the Boxster is a chick car, wave your pink scarf at them as you blow their doors off.
I agree with the pink scarf comment though - a guy who wants to drive an automatic sports car deserves a Boxster and the pink scarf.
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The Boxster is killer, perhaps one of the most beautiful designs put to sheet metal, even better in its second iteration.
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The new boxster is really nice.
Since you want a slushbox, i would at least wait until next year when porsche unveils their twin plate semi-manual (aka DSG). Tip is sooooo 80s. If you can spring for the S, I'd do it, but honestly I'd rather take the base over a G, Z vette or anything. You guys talk about bang4buck, overpriced yada...hav e you seen the new boxster interior?
Some pple only are interested in numbers - some arent, we pay what something is worth to us. I really wanted to buy a C6, but after you spend time in a mercedes....why do you want to roll a chrysler?
Its the same think folks, porsche *used* to be a sports car company - but they almost went under. So now they are builders of *Luxury* sports cars. Big diff IMO.
That said, the real bang4buck right now are 01-03 911TT, they can be had for %75-85, have totally pimped interiors (full leather blah, blah) and have a bulletproof 420HP motor, which is easily modded ($2k) to 490HP. There see! you get the legendary german precision building, killer interior, AND the monster motor...and the sound of those K16s on full boost....
I digress.
keep your G until DSG is out, then go buy your slushbox poseur porsche!
Since you want a slushbox, i would at least wait until next year when porsche unveils their twin plate semi-manual (aka DSG). Tip is sooooo 80s. If you can spring for the S, I'd do it, but honestly I'd rather take the base over a G, Z vette or anything. You guys talk about bang4buck, overpriced yada...hav e you seen the new boxster interior?
Some pple only are interested in numbers - some arent, we pay what something is worth to us. I really wanted to buy a C6, but after you spend time in a mercedes....why do you want to roll a chrysler?
Its the same think folks, porsche *used* to be a sports car company - but they almost went under. So now they are builders of *Luxury* sports cars. Big diff IMO.
That said, the real bang4buck right now are 01-03 911TT, they can be had for %75-85, have totally pimped interiors (full leather blah, blah) and have a bulletproof 420HP motor, which is easily modded ($2k) to 490HP. There see! you get the legendary german precision building, killer interior, AND the monster motor...and the sound of those K16s on full boost....
I digress.
keep your G until DSG is out, then go buy your slushbox poseur porsche!
#28
Originally Posted by MrElussive
Since you wanna get it in auto, I say don't do it. It's people like you that are ruining and watering down Porsche and everything the name stands for.
#30
Originally Posted by MrElussive
It is hard to prove my point since you also drive an auto.