Who will win: Honda accord coupe auto or G35 coupe 6mt
From what I read, that being on paper so take it for what its worth, the coupe has 240 hp, 212 ft-lb of tq. The car weighs a bit over 3300 lbs. If its a decent rule of thumb to say that 100lbs = 10 hp (I dont know of a rule for tq), then the accord would match up to around 260 hp and for the sake of argument, 230 ft-lb of torque.
Those numbers look to me like it's not the closest of races. I like the accord coupe a good bit. I would like to have one as a second car. They are pretty decent for the price. My question is who would win Accord coupe vs RX8.
Those numbers look to me like it's not the closest of races. I like the accord coupe a good bit. I would like to have one as a second car. They are pretty decent for the price. My question is who would win Accord coupe vs RX8.
who cares?? too many pointless threads...how about
G35 VS PORSCHE 911 TURBO!!
or
G35TT vs F18 Hornet!!
The G will beat cars that its faster than and wont beat cars its slower than. If you wanna go race, go do it but be prepared to face the consequences.
G35 VS PORSCHE 911 TURBO!!
or
G35TT vs F18 Hornet!!
The G will beat cars that its faster than and wont beat cars its slower than. If you wanna go race, go do it but be prepared to face the consequences.
Last edited by pdjafari; Mar 10, 2005 at 08:24 AM.
No kidding.
Who will win, your *** or your mouth? Who frikkin cares! If you are so worried about speed in a straight line, get rid of your car, buy a civic, put a B16 in it, turbo, and NOS, and be the envy of all your hooked on phonics friends!
Who will win, your *** or your mouth? Who frikkin cares! If you are so worried about speed in a straight line, get rid of your car, buy a civic, put a B16 in it, turbo, and NOS, and be the envy of all your hooked on phonics friends!
I believe Car and Driver said the Accord V6 - 6MT is faster to 60 mph than the G35 - 6MT, and that's with the Honda's lame all season tires. Put some sticky tires on the Honda and they could probably do better than the 5.9 seconds C&D got.
For me, cornering and busting loose the G's *** is more fun than going fast anyway. I always drive with traction control off.
Peace
For me, cornering and busting loose the G's *** is more fun than going fast anyway. I always drive with traction control off.
Peace
Originally Posted by Nice G
I believe Car and Driver said the Accord V6 - 6MT is faster to 60 mph than the G35 - 6MT, and that's with the Honda's lame all season tires. Put some sticky tires on the Honda and they could probably do better than the 5.9 seconds C&D got.
For me, cornering and busting loose the G's *** is more fun than going fast anyway. I always drive with traction control off.
Peace
For me, cornering and busting loose the G's *** is more fun than going fast anyway. I always drive with traction control off.
Peace
Of course this all assumes competent drivers because if you can't shift, then you'd probably lose to a Minivan.
Originally Posted by dkim-
yup those v tecs.. from what i hear they are basically FI engines since they hold in air longer..
Originally Posted by SAL9000
Nod would go to the G35C. 6 speed Accord V6 coupe would be another story. All the car mags have it at almost identical 0-60 and 1/4 timesto the G35. One thing for sure though, the Honda V6 is vastly superior. Drive a VQ for a while and then drive one of these engineering marvels. All on regular unleaded to boot.
Honda vtec is much differnt than nissan/porsche/anyones vvt
Honda uses an "on off" system that at and above a certain rpm, the cams are more aggressive, below that point, they are not.
All other vvt systems are linear to my knowledge, and engage throughout the entire rev of the motor....
Think about our car.... at about 4K it gets a little faster and by 5k its at full bore... but you dont feel these transitions, the car just does them. In a honda, at 6k, it feels like a slight jolt as the engine turns over to a more aggressive mode.
Same concept, completely differnt delievery.... (Could a vtec expert correct me on a few parts of this, I'm pretty sure its all correct though)
As far as the race.... I had a kid in a v6 accord keep trying to race me on a high way from about 70-75 mph. Ya know... sit next to the window, hit gas, slow down, repeat, repeat, repeat. Well eventually I just gave up and went into gear. Giving them the start from 70, youll be by them by 80 at the VERY most. Starting from a dead stop... launch properly and youll win. Launch improperly and youll have to get to 50-60 to get a nice lead again. If hes in a 6mt... be ready for a good battle off the line. If hes in a point and click transmission and you feel you wont be able to launch on him as well.... take him to some twisties and show him why his car has a honda badge on it....
Honda uses an "on off" system that at and above a certain rpm, the cams are more aggressive, below that point, they are not.
All other vvt systems are linear to my knowledge, and engage throughout the entire rev of the motor....
Think about our car.... at about 4K it gets a little faster and by 5k its at full bore... but you dont feel these transitions, the car just does them. In a honda, at 6k, it feels like a slight jolt as the engine turns over to a more aggressive mode.
Same concept, completely differnt delievery.... (Could a vtec expert correct me on a few parts of this, I'm pretty sure its all correct though)
As far as the race.... I had a kid in a v6 accord keep trying to race me on a high way from about 70-75 mph. Ya know... sit next to the window, hit gas, slow down, repeat, repeat, repeat. Well eventually I just gave up and went into gear. Giving them the start from 70, youll be by them by 80 at the VERY most. Starting from a dead stop... launch properly and youll win. Launch improperly and youll have to get to 50-60 to get a nice lead again. If hes in a 6mt... be ready for a good battle off the line. If hes in a point and click transmission and you feel you wont be able to launch on him as well.... take him to some twisties and show him why his car has a honda badge on it....
"B.S. VTEC is only a brand name for Honda's variable valve timing, which is no different from Nissan's variable valve timing, or any of the others. There is nothing special about VTEC other than a catchy name. Honda didn't even invent the technology - Porsche did in the 1930's, although Honda was the first to bring it to a production car with the Acura NSX." -Z06ified
hm im no car expert but.. doesnt valve timing have to do with the time it takes for the valves to open and close "valve" -> "timing" as in the time it takes before the air gets combusted then released?
hell im not siding with the accord.. y would i when i own a g myself
.. but i always thought that the reaosn why people supe civics and integras is because of the v tec..
edit: heres something that explains the v tec more clearly 8p http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm hm so i guess it could hold air in longer or expell it faster :P depending on the rpm range as someone else stated.. i think the ferrari engine also has something like this.. multiple cams to change timing
hm im no car expert but.. doesnt valve timing have to do with the time it takes for the valves to open and close "valve" -> "timing" as in the time it takes before the air gets combusted then released?
hell im not siding with the accord.. y would i when i own a g myself
.. but i always thought that the reaosn why people supe civics and integras is because of the v tec..edit: heres something that explains the v tec more clearly 8p http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm hm so i guess it could hold air in longer or expell it faster :P depending on the rpm range as someone else stated.. i think the ferrari engine also has something like this.. multiple cams to change timing
Last edited by dkim-; Mar 10, 2005 at 02:22 PM.
and the last time i checked, the word "maybe" excludes my statement from making it an assumption. go get your GED and come back~ bye
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Originally Posted by dkim-
"B.S. VTEC is only a brand name for Honda's variable valve timing, which is no different from Nissan's variable valve timing, or any of the others. There is nothing special about VTEC other than a catchy name. Honda didn't even invent the technology - Porsche did in the 1930's, although Honda was the first to bring it to a production car with the Acura NSX." -Z06ified
hm im no car expert but.. doesnt valve timing have to do with the time it takes for the valves to open and close "valve" -> "timing" as in the time it takes before the air gets combusted then released?
hell im not siding with the accord.. y would i when i own a g myself
.. but i always thought that the reaosn why people supe civics and integras is because of the v tec..
edit: heres something that explains the v tec more clearly 8p http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm hm so i guess it could hold air in longer or expell it faster :P depending on the rpm range as someone else stated.. i think the ferrari engine also has something like this.. multiple cams to change timing
hm im no car expert but.. doesnt valve timing have to do with the time it takes for the valves to open and close "valve" -> "timing" as in the time it takes before the air gets combusted then released?
hell im not siding with the accord.. y would i when i own a g myself
.. but i always thought that the reaosn why people supe civics and integras is because of the v tec..edit: heres something that explains the v tec more clearly 8p http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm hm so i guess it could hold air in longer or expell it faster :P depending on the rpm range as someone else stated.. i think the ferrari engine also has something like this.. multiple cams to change timing
Originally Posted by g35sammy
if you have nothing to input....then don't at all....why do you have to comment? just go along your merry old way.....i hate members like you that have to comment on every little thing that someone else has to say.....


