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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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04'G35 6MT(RIP)... 05'G35 6MT lose brembro and Tq or CPO M3

I had a 04' G35 Coupe 6MT fully loaded. Over this past weekend I a drunk driver hit me and totaled my car (RIP). I now have the problem of finding a new car. I loved my 04' g35 6MT dearly. I wouldn't mind getting a 05' G35 6MT, but it bothers me that I lose my Brembro Brakes and 260TQ instead the 270TQ I had with my 04'. I know the 05’ are supposed to have equal to or better brakes but, I like the look of the Brembros and it was a conversation piece. Many people were amazed that they were stock. I know that the 05's have 298HP but I feel that the TQ is more important to have more of. These are my options what do you guys think.

1. Try to get a CPO 04 6MT? I think this would be very hard due to the fact it was a 6MT and that my car was fully loaded. (Full Aero-Navi-Prem-Bose etc.)

2. Buy a 05' 6MT and try to get make a deal to get my Brembos from off of my totaled 04 and lightly mod the car to get the extra TQ.

3. Buy a CPO BMW M3. I always wanted an M3 but, I know that the M3 is going to be discontinued soon due to the arrival of the M4 in 06' or 07' than I would have an (OLD CAR). Plus, I know it would be nearly impossible to find the color combo I want. Black with the Peanut Butter Guts; for those who don't know what that means, its the cinnamon color interior that is similar to the color of peanut butter.

4. Drive my daily driver until I save up for a M35
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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how much u gettin for the 04? like how much his insurrance payin? i just say get the 05, u will like it.. just bc u dont have brembos dont mean its the end of the world.. no offense... i think the 05 will be a good investment, and hey its free! who cares then!?!?
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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i don't know for sure, so if there are some '05 dyno runs that have been done at the same locale, same day, same conditions, great, but: the addition of variable valve timing to the exhaust side of the engine should have as its goal to provide the ability for the engine to both haul down low, and breath up high. This is certainly borne out by the increase in redline and the fact that, when fitted to the Anniversary Z (only tests I know thus far), the car has shown a tick or two quicker. I had an '03; spent a great deal of time testing an '04, and now have my '05. Max torque may be down, but my butt dyno says that area under the curve is at least equal, with more down low to mid where it's needed most. Max torque, unless the curve is really flat, is not as important as delivery characteristics (which can be more readily seen thru area under the curve). HP max- that's important. The new car is noticeably quieter, but has some serious grunt that was absent from the previous, and zings up high. As with my previous car, I have the Ztube, K&N drop-in and a wire kit to make sure the engine is clean across the board, and willing on top (which in stock trim, it is not- in fact I'd say "reluctant" beyond 6K).
As for the Brembos, I'm not sure if they provided the result that Nissan was looking for- every test I've seen said they still fried when put to track use, and after my 2 hour test of an "04, they certainly smelled that way. My '05 isn't fully broken in yet, so I can't speak to how they will perform when I'm willing to push it.
BTW, I absolutely loved my '03; the new interior and sweet 19's are worth the price of admission.

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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by derek
As with my previous car, I have the Ztube, K&N drop-in and a wire kit to make sure the engine is clean across the board, and willing on top (which in stock trim, it is not- in fact I'd say "reluctant" beyond 6K).


Hmmmm. I gotta say that this may be in your mind. There is no way that those mods will "open up" the top end of an engine. The top end of an engine is generally opened up most by significantly increased breathing from free-flowing headers and exhaust. Intake mods, especially the ones mentioned, should be nearly negligible.

As for the Brembos "frying", well once again you are off base with your statements. The calipers are top notch, however, any braking system is only as good as the sum of its components. The rotors and pads are what fade or "fry" during hard driving, the role of the calipers is to give constant, even grip when asked. You put a slightly upgraded set of rotors and pads with the stock Brembos and you have a world class stopping system.

I guarantee that the calipers were not the part that was fried after your test drive.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Salvage the brembos off the old car...or track which junkyard its goin to...

But the things you mentioned like 10TQ and what not are petty....those would not be deciding reasons for me. A car with the same power will be able to stop the same way....just won't last on the track.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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In answer to the question--I would stick with an 03 or 04. The Brembos will always be a hot selling point down the road and many people will want to swap out the stock 19s from the 05's anyways. The 03-04s will always have the "I gotta have it" factor of the Brembos. If I were selling in a year or two, the word "BREMBO" would be in large type in my ad. Brakes are a big selling point these days--everyone has upgraded their brakes, even Acura who has had some of the worst stock brake issues,
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ39
In answer to the question--I would stick with an 03 or 04. The Brembos will always be a hot selling point down the road and many people will want to swap out the stock 19s from the 05's anyways. The 03-04s will always have the "I gotta have it" factor of the Brembos. If I were selling in a year or two, the word "BREMBO" would be in large type in my ad. Brakes are a big selling point these days--everyone has upgraded their brakes, even Acura who has had some of the worst stock brake issues,

Thats true if your selling it to a teenager...lets face it, old people don't care about things like that.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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i hate drunk drivers! my cousin, well i considered him that.. someone i really looked up to and wanted to be like got killed bc some drunk driver... he hit his car dead on, and died at the hospital... i loved that guy... stupid drunk drivers r gay ***s, i hope they all die from a long and painful death!
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:04 PM
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WOW!!! Another person just like myself in a similar experience....

On Super Bowl Weekend, my car got totalled. I had a 04 G35 Coupe 6spd Black/Graphite, Premium, Aero. No Navi because I have my own Multimedia setup.

Let me just say for the past 2 months waiting on the Insurance to finalize and me being picky on buying a car, I know how you feel and what you're going through.

I looked at getting an 04 M3 6 spd w/ premium and a few other things, but after doing research on them, it's just a waste of money to me. The car is so expensive as is, plus a semi-decent full exhaust system for the car will set you back at least $2500.00 if you're lucky, and I saw a good stainless steel one and it was $5000 and the Titanium version was $9500!!! WTF!!!! Plus getting an intake for the car will set you back about $600 as well. Then if you try to do anything else with the car, you'll probably be in debt by then.

So after all of those decisions and looking at different cars, I went to the Infinit dealership and checked out the new 05's.

I've read the reviews and opinions and everything else of what people with the 03's and 04's were saying.

BLAH BLAH BLAH you lose the Brembo's. They weren't all that great anyway. I'd rather throw a set of Stoptechs on. Now you get very good brakes with a Sport-Tuned Suspension, as well as some drilled aluminum pedals.

BLAH BLAH BLAH about losing 10 tq. You gain 18 HP and it's 298 @ 6400 instead of 280 @ 6200, plus you get a High-Flow Intake ( a large induction manifold ) not sure how this compares with APS, Kinetix, and Crawford Plenums. PLUS a Variable Valve Timing ( a computer optimizes when the Intake Valves open for improved performance and efficiency at all engine speeds, not just a specific rev range. )

Another good feature about the 05's is the 8 way power adjustments for the Seats and a Powered Telescoping Synchronized Steering Column & Guages. Still not a fan favorite of the Orange lights, but the new Guages look FREAKIN SWEAT compared to the 04's. I like the shift/rev light and you can adjust it for whenever you want.

Another cool thing is that now the Driver side seat has a handle for the rear passenger, but also a button that you press and it does it for you if you dont feel like pulling the handle, same for the passenger side.

All in all, I was impressed with the changes from the 04 to 05 model. Plus getting the G35 instead of the M3, i'll be able to do many mods and turbo it, AND i'll have spent less doing so and put a nice whoopin on the M3 and most any other car I come up against.

So i'm now a proud new owner of a 05 G35 Coupe 6spd., premium, aero, Ivory Pearl w/ Stone Interior. Picked the car up today ( SAME DAY PURCHASE ), all I did was walk in the dealership, saw the car on the lot, said I wanted that one, did the paperwork and was out of there in no time. Couldn't believe I got so lucky and didn't have to put in a order or wait for another dealership to send it over or anything.

Everything will work out with Insurance, I hope at least, it did with me. Car got paid off and I got a nice chunk of change for a down payment for this car.

Hope that helps your decision and if not, good luck with your new purchase.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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05 w/ your old brembos definitely, go with that new blue color (i think its called athens blue or something)



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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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If the car was optimised for power rather than corporate political correctness and sound pressure levels, then JZ's belief would be correct. Interesting that the Z gets a straight tube intake, while all other cars- with less power, using the VQ-Altima, Maxima, FX, Murano, M, G... have "power robber boxes" where a straight line should go. A stifled engine can't get enough air to achieve optimal mixture for combustion on top. So the map only gives up as much fuel as can be used. Give it air, and the engine map will supply the fuel. That's why improved breathing normally only shows significant benefits in the upper revs. Key word: normally. In the case of a poorly designed engine, the benefits could be more widespread.
Fast, Good suggestion on the brake salvage idea.
 
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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I would get a '05 and get the Brembo's off your old car, you would have the best of both worlds. If you really worried about TQ just get a set of Crawford cats and a y pipe eliminate the most restrictive parts of the exhaust. You could even throw a ztube and K and N at if for only few hundred dollars. You should be around for mods and eaisly have your 10TQ back and over 300hp. It's a no brainer.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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The new stock brakes are great unless you plan on racing the thing. If you want looks, just have the calipers powdercoated or something. 10lbs of torque isn't that much, the 0-60 times are nearly the same. The 05 interior (where you spend most of your time) quality far surpasses the previous years models. The feel and look of the materials is 20 times better, and makes up for all the little things that people gripe about such as BREMBO brakes and 10lbs of torque. The dash is soft-touch including the gauge pod (finally). The aluminum is real and feels like it should (cold to the touch or hot if hot out). The gauges don't look like GM crap anymore, and the lighting is pretty awesome. Just my .02. As for the M3, they will always be nice, regardless of being an "old car." It is one of those cars that will be revered forever. I chose the G, because it is a brand new car (I don't have to worry about previous owners' treatments) for less than the price of a used M3.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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buy the 05 if you can....get the Brembo's later if you want....car-part.com is a searchable nationwide salvage yard site.....some yards don't update it frequently enough, so sometimes it might show to have a part but you call and it's been sold...FYI
 
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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i say get an m3. i want one so bad but selling this g is a real bitch.
 
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