Supercharge or Turbocharge?
Auto go with a SC / Single Turbo. Manual go with a Twin / Single Turbo set up. You'll run into alot of lag with an auto running on a twin turbo set up if I recall. Also if you go with a turbo set up, I'd highly recommend forged internals.
Originally Posted by Dj Cyntex
Auto go with a SC / Single Turbo. Manual go with a Twin / Single Turbo set up. You'll run into alot of lag with an auto running on a twin turbo set up if I recall.
Originally Posted by Eddie23
I think it's the other way round. The ST setup gives you more lag because it uses one big turbo which takes longer to spool up. The purpose of the TT setup is to reduce the lag by using two smaller quick spooling turbos.
Originally Posted by G352NV
Ok heres something to think about, how many SC system have blown our motors? How many Turbos have blown our motors? Like it or not a SC is safer for our cars. If your going to build your motor then go Turbo. If your going to stay stock then SC it!
However, I would try to determine the cause of death of the motors in question before jumping to conclusions as well. A poor fuel system or tuning can just as easily be the culprit. I will say, it would appear the S/C kits do seem to be more reliable comprehensively at the moment.
Ckwik,
Thanks for your very informative response. Some of the responses from others were confusing and went against what I knew of turbos and superchargers. What about the types of SCs? Roots vs. Centrifugal? I was told the latter i.e. Vortech, would place less stress on the engine vs. a roots based configuration i.e. Stillen, though the Roots would give better low end performance (assuming you could handle the wheel spin).
C.
Thanks for your very informative response. Some of the responses from others were confusing and went against what I knew of turbos and superchargers. What about the types of SCs? Roots vs. Centrifugal? I was told the latter i.e. Vortech, would place less stress on the engine vs. a roots based configuration i.e. Stillen, though the Roots would give better low end performance (assuming you could handle the wheel spin).
C.
Here is my personal take on it:
stillen- safe, has a warranty, ugly hood, small gains not worth the money spent
ATI- blew up way too many engines in the beginning, not sure how they are now. wouldnt buy one.
vortech- owned one for a few months, but never installed it. IMO the best SC
greddy TT - good system, but needs some extras to optimize performance/safety.
APS- safe so far, good for up to 400 WHP, then needs complicated tuning to make more HP.
If you want around 350 WHP, go SC. If you want more, build your engine and get a TT.
stillen- safe, has a warranty, ugly hood, small gains not worth the money spent
ATI- blew up way too many engines in the beginning, not sure how they are now. wouldnt buy one.
vortech- owned one for a few months, but never installed it. IMO the best SC
greddy TT - good system, but needs some extras to optimize performance/safety.
APS- safe so far, good for up to 400 WHP, then needs complicated tuning to make more HP.
If you want around 350 WHP, go SC. If you want more, build your engine and get a TT.
Originally Posted by brittain
Here is my personal take on it:
stillen- safe, has a warranty, ugly hood, small gains not worth the money spent
ATI- blew up way too many engines in the beginning, not sure how they are now. wouldnt buy one.
vortech- owned one for a few months, but never installed it. IMO the best SC
greddy TT - good system, but needs some extras to optimize performance/safety.
APS- safe so far, good for up to 400 WHP, then needs complicated tuning to make more HP.
If you want around 350 WHP, go SC. If you want more, build your engine and get a TT.
stillen- safe, has a warranty, ugly hood, small gains not worth the money spent
ATI- blew up way too many engines in the beginning, not sure how they are now. wouldnt buy one.
vortech- owned one for a few months, but never installed it. IMO the best SC
greddy TT - good system, but needs some extras to optimize performance/safety.
APS- safe so far, good for up to 400 WHP, then needs complicated tuning to make more HP.
If you want around 350 WHP, go SC. If you want more, build your engine and get a TT.
One more thing... There is soooooo much information on my350z.com Forced Induction Forum. You seriously owe it to yourself to spend many hours on there reading up on what has worked and what hasn't. You'll be able to learn from others mistakes and hopefully you won't repeat them yourself.
Originally Posted by kame_san0
build my engine why? do i need to upgrade more stuff?
And, as mentioned by S2020...you'll need an upgraded Valve body and torque converter to retain any reliability from your tranny.
Originally Posted by Randys_G
What you need to do is your homework. I don't mean this with any dissrespect, but it's the only way I can put it...you are far too ignorant when it comes to this stuff for your (and your cars) own good. Do some research, ask more questions and understand this stuff before moving forward.
I second Randy's position. Tuning your car to insane horsepower sounds cool, but when your tranny or engine blows, its gonna be an ugly day for you and your car might end up being worth nothing. End of the day, you might have been better off buying Z06 if you add up the costs of repairing it. I've been doing slow and careful research.... coming from the performance crazy Audi S4 folks, who report blown turbos and trannys often (B5 bodies for those purists who are about to point out that the new S4 has no turbos... those who don't do it the right way). Some of the folks here who tune their cars go the whole 9 yards, rebuilding internals and trannys. At the end of the day, you want power AND reliability. The 2 terms are oxymorons, but if I have to give up 30k to the engine's life for 100+ more horses, it might be acceptable. But if I give up 80-100k of the engine's life for more horses, I have to pause and consider.
Just my 2 cents.



