G Coupe Seat Problems
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This whole weight issue is comical lol... I'm 6' 2' and weight about 191. On the government chart they put me at "above normal," and they say I should be about 180.
Anyway getting to the point these seats look nice, but they haven't been made to wear very well.. my left seat bolster has some unsightly creases develop; the right one is perfect. It looks like it could get a lot worse. I personally think its because while getting in and out of the car you crush the left seat bolster. I've been trying to get in more carefully, but its not that easy to not crush it at all without literally jumping into the car. I've been treating it weekly with leather care products in the hope that I can prevent it from getting much worse...
Anyway getting to the point these seats look nice, but they haven't been made to wear very well.. my left seat bolster has some unsightly creases develop; the right one is perfect. It looks like it could get a lot worse. I personally think its because while getting in and out of the car you crush the left seat bolster. I've been trying to get in more carefully, but its not that easy to not crush it at all without literally jumping into the car. I've been treating it weekly with leather care products in the hope that I can prevent it from getting much worse...
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Originally Posted by aerisolphaln
Definition of overweight and obesity — The terms overweight and obesity are frequently used interchangeably, although they are defined differently.
Overweight refers to a weight above the "normal" range. This is often determined from life insurance tables or from ranges of body mass index.
Obesity is defined by the presence of excess body fat. (See "Determining body composition").
Body mass index — In practice, the distinction between overweight and obesity is made on the basis of the body mass index (BMI). The BMI is the most practical way to evaluate the degree of excess weight. It is calculated from the weight and square of the height as follows:
BMI = body weight (in kg) ÷ stature (height, in meters) squared
The BMI can also be obtained from a nomogram or a table (show figure 1 and show table 2A-2B). BMI is correlated with body fat and is relatively unaffected by height.
The definition of overweight and obesity varies by race. Overweight for whites is defined as a BMI between 25 and 29.9 kg/m2 and obesity is defined as a BMI of 30 kg/m2 or more. For Asians, overweight is a BMI between 23 and 29.9 kg/m2 and obesity a BMI >30 kg/m2. The WHO and NHLBI Guidelines are currently applied to whites, Hispanics and blacks.
1. World Health Organization. Obesity: preventing and managing the global epidemic. Geneva, June 3-5, 1997.
2. Clinical Guidelines on the Identification, Evaluation, and Treatment of Overweight and Obesity in Adults--The Evidence Report. National Institutes of Health. Obes Res 1998; 6 Suppl 2:51S.
3. Janssen, I, Katzmarzyk, PT, Ross, R. Body mass index, waist circumference, and health risk: evidence in support of current national institutes of health guidelines. Arch Intern Med 2002; 162:2074.
Overweight refers to a weight above the "normal" range. This is often determined from life insurance tables or from ranges of body mass index.
Obesity is defined by the presence of excess body fat. (See "Determining body composition").
Body mass index — In practice, the distinction between overweight and obesity is made on the basis of the body mass index (BMI). The BMI is the most practical way to evaluate the degree of excess weight. It is calculated from the weight and square of the height as follows:
BMI = body weight (in kg) ÷ stature (height, in meters) squared
The BMI can also be obtained from a nomogram or a table (show figure 1 and show table 2A-2B). BMI is correlated with body fat and is relatively unaffected by height.
The definition of overweight and obesity varies by race. Overweight for whites is defined as a BMI between 25 and 29.9 kg/m2 and obesity is defined as a BMI of 30 kg/m2 or more. For Asians, overweight is a BMI between 23 and 29.9 kg/m2 and obesity a BMI >30 kg/m2. The WHO and NHLBI Guidelines are currently applied to whites, Hispanics and blacks.
1. World Health Organization. Obesity: preventing and managing the global epidemic. Geneva, June 3-5, 1997.
2. Clinical Guidelines on the Identification, Evaluation, and Treatment of Overweight and Obesity in Adults--The Evidence Report. National Institutes of Health. Obes Res 1998; 6 Suppl 2:51S.
3. Janssen, I, Katzmarzyk, PT, Ross, R. Body mass index, waist circumference, and health risk: evidence in support of current national institutes of health guidelines. Arch Intern Med 2002; 162:2074.
And how does a calculation that only takes into account height and weight measure if someone is overweight? No consideration for bone size? Muscle build/size? Proportionality?
I know you are quoting this off of a website or some brochure from a gym, but take a step back and think about this. Are you trying to say that a pro hockey player with one of the leanest, meanest humans bodies around is overweight? According to your BMI equation, are you saying a typical defensman at 6'3" and 220 lbs. would be considerably overweight with a BMI of 27.56?
I understand obesity and 'overweight' are two seperate concepts, but what is the point of the term 'overweight' if it basically has no practical purpose other than telling you what the average person is like? How is that of use to an individual?
Last edited by msd3075; May 13, 2005 at 01:15 PM.
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This is the definition that I use as a physician to help diagnose overweight and obesity.
As you point out, other characteristics have to be taken into account when risk-stratifying people for cardiac and other forms of disease, but I want you to know that there are very specific medical definitions for the terms you use. I also want you to know that the main indicator of body mass is the BMI, as defined above.
You should educate yourself before you post.
As you point out, other characteristics have to be taken into account when risk-stratifying people for cardiac and other forms of disease, but I want you to know that there are very specific medical definitions for the terms you use. I also want you to know that the main indicator of body mass is the BMI, as defined above.
You should educate yourself before you post.
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Originally Posted by aerisolphaln
This is the definition that I use as a physician to help diagnose overweight and obesity.
As you point out, other characteristics have to be taken into account when risk-stratifying people for cardiac and other forms of disease, but I want you to know that there are very specific medical definitions for the terms you use. I also want you to know that the main indicator of body mass is the BMI, as defined above.
You should educate yourself before you post.
As you point out, other characteristics have to be taken into account when risk-stratifying people for cardiac and other forms of disease, but I want you to know that there are very specific medical definitions for the terms you use. I also want you to know that the main indicator of body mass is the BMI, as defined above.
You should educate yourself before you post.
All I'm asking is how one can claim someone is 'overweight' if they have next to no excess on their body, and if overweight simply means that one weighs more than the 'typical' person, what is the point of such a description? You've yet to comment on this question.
Gee, I'm sorry, but I'm 18 and I'm under the impression that most of the people who replied to this thread are a bunch of immature tools. How about helping the poor man out with his problem instead of telling him how much he should weigh. Last time I checked, this was the coupe section, not the off topic section. Grow up folks, this is a car community.
btw....a car with less than 50k on the clock should not have seats that are worn to the metal, and padding shouldn't be disintegrating like you've described. Try posting up pics so people can help you out more.
btw....a car with less than 50k on the clock should not have seats that are worn to the metal, and padding shouldn't be disintegrating like you've described. Try posting up pics so people can help you out more.
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Originally Posted by JZ39
What a retarded statement from an immature "adult".
Using that intellectual perspective, I'll assume that you should take your boney *** to the gym and bulk up a bit.
If you don't have anything relevant to add to the discussion just shut up and leave the board for useful members.
Using that intellectual perspective, I'll assume that you should take your boney *** to the gym and bulk up a bit.
If you don't have anything relevant to add to the discussion just shut up and leave the board for useful members.
Your posting too, was completely irrelevant to the discussion and not useful to any board members whatsoever but yourself. So please remove the posting from this thread or add some relevant information. Otherwise you'll look like someone who just can't mind is own business.
Maybe i should contribute too. Nah, its funnier this way.
Last edited by mc2; May 13, 2005 at 03:54 PM.
Originally Posted by JohnnyFahr
Need Help Here!!!
My G coupe drivers seat is turning into sh*t, it is squeaking all the time now, whenever I go over a bump, and accelerate and decelerate, also the seat bolster on the left hand side is wearing, Yes I know the leather will get creases in it, but the foam in the seat is wearing down to the metal in the seat, and the fricken thing is looking and sounding like hell, So talked to the dealer, and he won't cover it. WTF????
Anyone here have that problem??
Thanks
My G coupe drivers seat is turning into sh*t, it is squeaking all the time now, whenever I go over a bump, and accelerate and decelerate, also the seat bolster on the left hand side is wearing, Yes I know the leather will get creases in it, but the foam in the seat is wearing down to the metal in the seat, and the fricken thing is looking and sounding like hell, So talked to the dealer, and he won't cover it. WTF????
Anyone here have that problem??
Thanks
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Originally Posted by aerisolphaln
Read my posts, and you'll see. 
If being 'overweight' simply means your weight is 'above normal' without taking into consideration body type, muscle build, etc. and instead only looks at height and weight, what is the point of even having that term? What is the significance of the term if it doesn't account for variables that are vital to the situation that it is trying to describe?
You've commented on how 'overweight' and 'obesity' have 'specific medical definitions', but that doesn't come close to answering my question.
Last edited by msd3075; May 13, 2005 at 05:34 PM.
Originally Posted by mc2
Btw,
Your posting too, was completely irrelevant to the discussion and not useful to any board members whatsoever but yourself. So please remove the posting from this thread or add some relevant information. Otherwise you'll look like someone who just can't mind is own business.
Maybe i should contribute too. Nah, its funnier this way.
Your posting too, was completely irrelevant to the discussion and not useful to any board members whatsoever but yourself. So please remove the posting from this thread or add some relevant information. Otherwise you'll look like someone who just can't mind is own business.
Maybe i should contribute too. Nah, its funnier this way.
Man, I don't miss my old Acura that much, but I sure do miss Acura-cl.com.
You would never have recieved this amount of bull**** responses to a serious question.
What a shame and what a waste.
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Originally Posted by JZ39
Man, I don't miss my old Acura that much, but I sure do miss Acura-cl.com.
You would never have recieved this amount of bull**** responses to a serious question.
What a shame and what a waste.
You would never have recieved this amount of bull**** responses to a serious question.
What a shame and what a waste.
My car has 2000 miles on it, and the left bolster is already creased. To me, what's causing it is that your butt smooshes the bolster whenver you get in and out (especially out) of the car. It's almost as if the seat is designed to fit your perfectly while driving but isn't the best design for getting in and out of.
Originally Posted by msd3075
And how does a calculation that only takes into account height and weight measure if someone is overweight? No consideration for bone size? Muscle build/size? Proportionality?
I know you are quoting this off of a website or some brochure from a gym, but take a step back and think about this. Are you trying to say that a pro hockey player with one of the leanest, meanest humans bodies around is overweight? According to your BMI equation, are you saying a typical defensman at 6'3" and 220 lbs. would be considerably overweight with a BMI of 27.56?
I understand obesity and 'overweight' are two seperate concepts, but what is the point of the term 'overweight' if it basically has no practical purpose other than telling you what the average person is like? How is that of use to an individual?
I know you are quoting this off of a website or some brochure from a gym, but take a step back and think about this. Are you trying to say that a pro hockey player with one of the leanest, meanest humans bodies around is overweight? According to your BMI equation, are you saying a typical defensman at 6'3" and 220 lbs. would be considerably overweight with a BMI of 27.56?
I understand obesity and 'overweight' are two seperate concepts, but what is the point of the term 'overweight' if it basically has no practical purpose other than telling you what the average person is like? How is that of use to an individual?
I'm not an expert on this but my guess is an athlete in most team sports where muscle mass is important would be considered an exception to the BMI guidelines because they obviously have a higher proportion of muscle compared to the average person.The BMI would be a pretty reasonable rule for most average people regardless of whether they're small or big boned. That's why there is such a spread with the healthy BMI range. However, many North Americans are walking around overweight by a good amount of pounds and thinking that's normal or rationalizing it by saying they're stocky or big boned.
Anyhow on the subject of your seat I would agree with you completely that it is not acceptable for yours to deteriorate with normal usage. That's regardless of quibbling over you as being average or large size. If someone was 300lbs I would think might not be unreasonable to expect a short seat life.
BTW, I think the good doctor means "lose" weight not get "loose" as a lot of people are just that especially around the middle.
Originally Posted by JZ39
What a retarded statement from an immature "adult".
Using that intellectual perspective, I'll assume that you should take your boney *** to the gym and bulk up a bit.
If you don't have anything relevant to add to the discussion just shut up and leave the board for useful members.
Using that intellectual perspective, I'll assume that you should take your boney *** to the gym and bulk up a bit.
If you don't have anything relevant to add to the discussion just shut up and leave the board for useful members.
man, you people can be some a$$es.. Its a seat frame issue. There is a revision. It can happen to your seat regardless of your weight. Physicians I know generally dont tool around on the internet giving medical advice. But hey, if the practice is slow...
I just had this repaired last week. There are two possible avenues to take with the seat frame. But regardless, any decent size dealer is doing many of these right now. They may have to order parts and it's so common right now, you might have to wait. I'm not sure if its still backordered, but it took a few days longer than anticipated. Just make sure you get a loaner or tell them you want the car back while you wait for parts. The seat has some sharp parts, make sure you show the service writer the condition of your console, steering wheel, door, kick panels, etc. There's a very high likelihood something will get scratched. I had my kickpanel replaced on their dime. I didnt have to ask though, it was replaced before I got there. They also nicked my steering wheel cover
that has to be repaired next week. Luckly, its at the bottom and hard to see.
As far as the leather, alittle searching here and you'll find many people had a run of bad leather on their seats. The dealer shouldnt care, especially if he's already taking the seat out. He may have not been covering them under warranty, but Infiniti is. If it were me, I would just beg them to call ICA and ask for coverage of the leather. I would tell the dealer that I believe he will find it to be a common issue. ICA will know if your car was in that range or batch of covers showing problems.
I just had this repaired last week. There are two possible avenues to take with the seat frame. But regardless, any decent size dealer is doing many of these right now. They may have to order parts and it's so common right now, you might have to wait. I'm not sure if its still backordered, but it took a few days longer than anticipated. Just make sure you get a loaner or tell them you want the car back while you wait for parts. The seat has some sharp parts, make sure you show the service writer the condition of your console, steering wheel, door, kick panels, etc. There's a very high likelihood something will get scratched. I had my kickpanel replaced on their dime. I didnt have to ask though, it was replaced before I got there. They also nicked my steering wheel cover
that has to be repaired next week. Luckly, its at the bottom and hard to see.As far as the leather, alittle searching here and you'll find many people had a run of bad leather on their seats. The dealer shouldnt care, especially if he's already taking the seat out. He may have not been covering them under warranty, but Infiniti is. If it were me, I would just beg them to call ICA and ask for coverage of the leather. I would tell the dealer that I believe he will find it to be a common issue. ICA will know if your car was in that range or batch of covers showing problems.
Last edited by TimW; May 14, 2005 at 03:19 AM.