Loss of Power as it gets HOTTER in Texas
#16
Originally Posted by P_Diddy
a turbo would help avoid any power loss
After ripping up the streets during cold/cool months at high boost levels, it's a bit of a let-down having to run lower boost during the summer and not getting as much HP as normal because of hot temps... ...which the turbo only increases.
Knowing the potential of your ride and then suddenly having the ***** snipped off for several months (in terms of what you're used to... ...the whole 'relative' thing) is a bit of a crusher. You were sticking it to 'Vettes and now you're hard-pressed to knock off that Mustang GT next to you. Keep in mind that you never forget how much money you've put into your car, regardless of any weather-related variances in power.
Don't get me wrong. I love forced induction. I'm a turbo nut and have been for about 20 years. But things are different when you live in an extremely hot area. When you only realize the full extent of you power increase for only 3-4 months of the year, you begin to ask yourself if all the added expense was worth it.
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
The only power loss I've noticed is the one in my a$$ when I go running outside. It was freaking 96 degrees on the airfield yesterday and it isn't even June yet.
You jus ain't been in the raat part of the State yet boy....
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Originally Posted by GeeWillikers
Corpus Christi - where men are men and sheep are scared...
It's not hell, but you can see it from here.
It's not hell, but you can see it from here.
If God was to give the world an enema, that's where He would put the tube.
I do sympathize with you, not on the weather, but the drivers! They have more stupid people here than ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA! 50% don't have a license, of that 50%, 100% of those have no insurance! Most people don't know what an acceleration ramp on the freeway is for. Some stop dead and wait to get on!
Last edited by Texasscout; 05-25-2005 at 02:55 PM.
#20
Originally Posted by roneski
Time for a dum-dum question...
Originally Posted by roneski
Why do you need to dial down the boost in the summer? Detonation? It seems to me to get the same amount of O2 into the engine that you could dial up the boost since the hot air is less dense.
And you can't dial up the boost to get more air into the engine without serious detonation because the intake air is always going to be less dense with oxygen than it would be when cold. And compressing air (resulting in boost) heats up the charge also. The higher the boost, the hotter the charge. It's cold weather that allows you to crank up the boost with less fear of detonation. Heat is the enemy, as detonation is the lighting-off of the air-fuel mixture in the combustion chamber before the spark, due to hot spots on the cylinder wall or the face of the piston usually from excessive heat and/or incorrect air-fuel ratios.
Last edited by GT-Ron; 05-25-2005 at 03:12 PM.
#21
Originally Posted by Texasscout
I do sympathize with you, not on the weather, but the drivers! They have more stupid people here than ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA! 50% don't have a license, of that 50%, 100% of those have no insurance! Most people don't know what an acceleration ramp on the freeway is for. Some stop dead and wait to get on!
I couldn't agree more. I have lived in San Diego CA, Norfolk VA, and even Honolulu HI. But there are no worse drivers than what I have seen here in Corpus Christi.
One might ask, "Why is there NO Infiniti dealer in Corpus Christi?" The truest answer: These roads are not worthy of such an automobile.
Driving to work every day is like dodging mortar fire on a minefield. They have no idea what road construction is here either. I only have 16 months left. I think the Sahara is cooler than this place!
#22
Originally Posted by G-Crazy
I couldn't agree more. I have lived in San Diego CA, Norfolk VA, and even Honolulu HI. But there are no worse drivers than what I have seen here in Corpus Christi.
One might ask, "Why is there NO Infiniti dealer in Corpus Christi?" The truest answer: These roads are not worthy of such an automobile.
Driving to work every day is like dodging mortar fire on a minefield. They have no idea what road construction is here either. I only have 16 months left. I think the Sahara is cooler than this place!
One might ask, "Why is there NO Infiniti dealer in Corpus Christi?" The truest answer: These roads are not worthy of such an automobile.
Driving to work every day is like dodging mortar fire on a minefield. They have no idea what road construction is here either. I only have 16 months left. I think the Sahara is cooler than this place!
It could truly be worse...you could be stuck in the crappy wasteland of West TX where all you see is tumbleweeds and all dat wonderful dust for your car to suck up.
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This is funny. salary.com made a list of 'most favorable' places to live, but only accounting for avg. pay rate vs. cost of living. Corpus Christi is #8! The survey failed to included livability factors, such as schools, weather or cultural amenities.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGNLCTH0R1.DTL
(see the chart too)
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...UGNLCTH0R1.DTL
(see the chart too)
#24
Originally Posted by Q45tech
1% power loss per 11F increase, as the air density drops 1%.
Also summer protective software [kicks in] as fuel/air/coolant temperature increase above nominal 70F/70F/176-184F.
Move to cooler climate or redesign entire vehicle...........use less AF concentration and Redline wetter water. Larger radiator to increase peak reserve. Some way to decrease air temperature going into engine. Larger oil sump [Stillen] to increase capacity and drop oil a few degrees.
Also summer protective software [kicks in] as fuel/air/coolant temperature increase above nominal 70F/70F/176-184F.
Move to cooler climate or redesign entire vehicle...........use less AF concentration and Redline wetter water. Larger radiator to increase peak reserve. Some way to decrease air temperature going into engine. Larger oil sump [Stillen] to increase capacity and drop oil a few degrees.
C.
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Originally Posted by Texasscout
You must not have ever been to Donna or Carrizo Springs....
If God was to give the world an enema, that's where He would put the tube.
I do sympathize with you, not on the weather, but the drivers! They have more stupid people here than ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA! 50% don't have a license, of that 50%, 100% of those have no insurance! Most people don't know what an acceleration ramp on the freeway is for. Some stop dead and wait to get on!
If God was to give the world an enema, that's where He would put the tube.
I do sympathize with you, not on the weather, but the drivers! They have more stupid people here than ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE USA! 50% don't have a license, of that 50%, 100% of those have no insurance! Most people don't know what an acceleration ramp on the freeway is for. Some stop dead and wait to get on!
Donna??? Never heard anyone mention that small town anywhere before. Anyways im shure u've heard of McAllen since its close by to Donna.......Rio Grande Valley sucks in the summer....
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Originally Posted by Q45tech
Use to commute from San Juan PR to Corpus on a monthly basis for years, in early 90's sure it must have improved since then.
At least you have access to decent fresh gasoline.........and sea food.
Wonder it the refinery fumes in the air help?
At least you have access to decent fresh gasoline.........and sea food.
Wonder it the refinery fumes in the air help?
Well the this whole area has been growing, and well the area around McAllen is pretty decent
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Likewise, you could get a bottle through Summit Racing, Jegs, etc. if you can't find it local.
It seemed to help a bit on my old turbo. If you're making other efforts to reduce underhood and operating temps, then you owe it to yourself to use this stuff too.
While on the subject of heat, have any of you upgraded your radiator? Since I'm in West Texas, I might give this some thought, along with some other things. I don't plan to autoX, but this would make life easier on the engine and produce some modest gains. In combination with other heat-reduction steps, there should be something noticeable gained.
My preliminary list for heat reduction is basically:
JetHot2000 coating on headers (these should be back next week )
Oil-Pan Spacer (for increased capacity)
Radiator (increased capacity)
Water Wetter
Oil-Cooler
Differential Housing with cooling fins
...pretty much whatever I can think to address, I will conssider.
Although, I'm still reluctant to wrap my CF UR G-Tube with heat-shielding/insulation if I can't make it look good. Doesn't anyone make the heat-shielding foil in black? lol
It seemed to help a bit on my old turbo. If you're making other efforts to reduce underhood and operating temps, then you owe it to yourself to use this stuff too.
While on the subject of heat, have any of you upgraded your radiator? Since I'm in West Texas, I might give this some thought, along with some other things. I don't plan to autoX, but this would make life easier on the engine and produce some modest gains. In combination with other heat-reduction steps, there should be something noticeable gained.
My preliminary list for heat reduction is basically:
JetHot2000 coating on headers (these should be back next week )
Oil-Pan Spacer (for increased capacity)
Radiator (increased capacity)
Water Wetter
Oil-Cooler
Differential Housing with cooling fins
...pretty much whatever I can think to address, I will conssider.
Although, I'm still reluctant to wrap my CF UR G-Tube with heat-shielding/insulation if I can't make it look good. Doesn't anyone make the heat-shielding foil in black? lol