What's this?
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Re: What's this?
Umm...to bad plymouth isnt around anymore, I believe DaimlerChrylser was smart and dropped that line like a bad habit,.not to mention its all the same thing. So you saying that the neon is a plymouth, pt cruiser is a plymouth and those vans are plymouths dont mean anything, cuz it was all made by the same company, just a diff badge. This aint the 50's anymore.
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Re: What's this?
Not to hijack the discussion (which probably belonged in the Off Topic section in the first place), but...
Yeah, Chrysler owned Plymouth and Dodge the way Ford owns Mercury and Lincoln. But I don't think it was just a coincidence that most of their cars that have inspired any sort of loyal following started life as Plymouths. Someone in that division was making good decisions. Plymouth had (relative) panache. What's the last Chrysler-badged car (that started life as Chrysler's project) that inspired any sort of passion, even to someone who prefers American cars? Dodge does okay, but between the death of the Stealth and the birth of the SRT4, their idea of a performance car under $80k was a Dakota R/T pickup truck. That sucks.
I mean, sure, Oldsmobile had nothing going for them, but GM still drags along Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, GMC, and Saturn. Daimler couldn't hang on to Plymouth just to build quirky stuff like the Prowler, PT Cruiser, PT Spyder, and retro cars based on the GTX, 'Cuda, and Road Runner? Maybe build an American sports car for under the cost of a Z06 that can actually take a turn (like the mid-engine PT Spyder would have)?
These guys have no clue. The Crossfire is a step in the right direction, but did you know the original specs called for a 275hp supercharged engine to be strapped to that 3000 pound frame? That would have killed us. But Daimler wanted stock Benz pieces and no part of American-style superchargers, and Chrysler, being dullards, went along with it. With the formula for earning Motor Trend's Car of the Year award staring them right in the face in the form of the G35, they passed. They don't get it. Their cars are the prettiest domestics, but not a one begs to be driven.
-Jack
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Yeah, Chrysler owned Plymouth and Dodge the way Ford owns Mercury and Lincoln. But I don't think it was just a coincidence that most of their cars that have inspired any sort of loyal following started life as Plymouths. Someone in that division was making good decisions. Plymouth had (relative) panache. What's the last Chrysler-badged car (that started life as Chrysler's project) that inspired any sort of passion, even to someone who prefers American cars? Dodge does okay, but between the death of the Stealth and the birth of the SRT4, their idea of a performance car under $80k was a Dakota R/T pickup truck. That sucks.
I mean, sure, Oldsmobile had nothing going for them, but GM still drags along Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Cadillac, GMC, and Saturn. Daimler couldn't hang on to Plymouth just to build quirky stuff like the Prowler, PT Cruiser, PT Spyder, and retro cars based on the GTX, 'Cuda, and Road Runner? Maybe build an American sports car for under the cost of a Z06 that can actually take a turn (like the mid-engine PT Spyder would have)?
These guys have no clue. The Crossfire is a step in the right direction, but did you know the original specs called for a 275hp supercharged engine to be strapped to that 3000 pound frame? That would have killed us. But Daimler wanted stock Benz pieces and no part of American-style superchargers, and Chrysler, being dullards, went along with it. With the formula for earning Motor Trend's Car of the Year award staring them right in the face in the form of the G35, they passed. They don't get it. Their cars are the prettiest domestics, but not a one begs to be driven.
-Jack
Obsidian/graphite '03 Coupe premium nav