That little gate that'll drop in front of 1st when the car is moving...
Originally Posted by andy2434
Wait! . . . Just to avoid some potential confusion here. Are you saying that you are rolling in 1st gear doing approx. 5 mph? . . . And you hate having to shift into 2nd to clear the intersection?
here's a scenario.
i roll out of my driveway in my subdivision. I head down to the main crossroad doing no more than 15, so i stay in 2nd.
I come up to the intersection, rolling up, and both sides are clear. I'm now at 5 mph, but i can't downshift to 1st, and have to stay in 2nd all the way out
Originally Posted by Atooraya
no
here's a scenario.
i roll out of my driveway in my subdivision. I head down to the main crossroad doing no more than 15, so i stay in 2nd.
I come up to the intersection, rolling up, and both sides are clear. I'm now at 5 mph, but i can't downshift to 1st, and have to stay in 2nd all the way out
here's a scenario.
i roll out of my driveway in my subdivision. I head down to the main crossroad doing no more than 15, so i stay in 2nd.
I come up to the intersection, rolling up, and both sides are clear. I'm now at 5 mph, but i can't downshift to 1st, and have to stay in 2nd all the way out
see, the problem is that i can't even put the shift **** into 1st gear 
i try to push it into first and it there's a sound of some sort of plate grinding, but it's not the gears
maybe some more "smart witty" jokes are necessary?

i try to push it into first and it there's a sound of some sort of plate grinding, but it's not the gears
maybe some more "smart witty" jokes are necessary?
Hmmm . . . I use this same approach when ever I never to grab a lower gear to pass or prior to entering a turn. I rarely need to downshift into 1st while I am rolling, but when I do need to, as you have mentioned . . . I have had no issues in getting into 1st gear.
Originally Posted by EX-250
This is because people today are too used to trannys with synchros... u have to rev match to first, IE you ahve to drive your MT properly....
Originally Posted by Atooraya
see, the problem is that i can't even put the shift **** into 1st gear 
i try to push it into first and it there's a sound of some sort of plate grinding, but it's not the gears
maybe some more "smart witty" jokes are necessary?

i try to push it into first and it there's a sound of some sort of plate grinding, but it's not the gears
maybe some more "smart witty" jokes are necessary?
Clutch in, blip the throttle, *then* push it into first and release clutch slowly.
In this order, it's much rougher:
Clutch in, push it into first, blip the throttle, then release the clutch
Originally Posted by woshiagni
I've experienced this too... maybe the order matters.
Clutch in, blip the throttle, *then* push it into first and release clutch slowly.
Clutch in, blip the throttle, *then* push it into first and release clutch slowly.
Good luck!
To rev match without synchro, pop the gear into neutral, blip the throttle and then shift into first?
2nd --> Neutral --> Blip to rev match --> 1st
It doesn't work too well when you try to shift into 1st without rev match in neutral first. I fail to see how 'heel and toe' is helpful in this case.... unless you are braking into a turn.
2nd --> Neutral --> Blip to rev match --> 1st
It doesn't work too well when you try to shift into 1st without rev match in neutral first. I fail to see how 'heel and toe' is helpful in this case.... unless you are braking into a turn.
i understand what youre talkin bout... do as everyone else said and "double clutch"
2nd gear... put in clutch and shift to N.... let out clutch.... hit gas to rev to where RPM would be at that speed in 1st gear... clutch in and put it in first... and make sure before you let out the clutch in 1st gear you are still rev matched for that speed... if you are off even a little bit your clutch starts to cry
2nd gear... put in clutch and shift to N.... let out clutch.... hit gas to rev to where RPM would be at that speed in 1st gear... clutch in and put it in first... and make sure before you let out the clutch in 1st gear you are still rev matched for that speed... if you are off even a little bit your clutch starts to cry
Originally Posted by Raznips
i understand what youre talkin bout... do as everyone else said and "double clutch"
2nd gear... put in clutch and shift to N.... let out clutch.... hit gas to rev to where RPM would be at that speed in 1st gear... clutch in and put it in first... and make sure before you let out the clutch in 1st gear you are still rev matched for that speed... if you are off even a little bit your clutch starts to cry
2nd gear... put in clutch and shift to N.... let out clutch.... hit gas to rev to where RPM would be at that speed in 1st gear... clutch in and put it in first... and make sure before you let out the clutch in 1st gear you are still rev matched for that speed... if you are off even a little bit your clutch starts to cry
1. Step on Clutch.
2. Shift to Nutral.
3. Blip the throttle.
4. Since your foot is still on the clutch, shift it back to first while EASING it back in. You see, every gear has an engagement point where you can ease the shifter back in while the RPM drops. This is also a good technique if your clutch pedal is broken for some reason. You can do this for every gear and also can take it out of gear without the clutch pedal too by using the same technique. I hardly do this since I can't see why since the car is moving past 5 mph that you need to go into 1st. gear. Anyways, that is the way I do it.
You DO NOT need to double clutch to accomplish this. If you are having trouble, you're doing something out of order....
1) In second gear, push in the clutch
2) As you break the catch point, rev up to approxmiately (give or take 200 rpms) where you would be in first
3) Move the selector from 2nd to 1st... the gate "block" will not happen
This all takes about a half second to acomplish, and requires some timing and footwork, however, you DO NOT need to go to neutral first.
1) In second gear, push in the clutch
2) As you break the catch point, rev up to approxmiately (give or take 200 rpms) where you would be in first
3) Move the selector from 2nd to 1st... the gate "block" will not happen
This all takes about a half second to acomplish, and requires some timing and footwork, however, you DO NOT need to go to neutral first.
Originally Posted by EX-250
You DO NOT need to double clutch to accomplish this. If you are having trouble, you're doing something out of order....
1) In second gear, push in the clutch
2) As you break the catch point, rev up to approxmiately (give or take 200 rpms) where you would be in first
3) Move the selector from 2nd to 1st... the gate "block" will not happen
This all takes about a half second to acomplish, and requires some timing and footwork, however, you DO NOT need to go to neutral first.
1) In second gear, push in the clutch
2) As you break the catch point, rev up to approxmiately (give or take 200 rpms) where you would be in first
3) Move the selector from 2nd to 1st... the gate "block" will not happen
This all takes about a half second to acomplish, and requires some timing and footwork, however, you DO NOT need to go to neutral first.
Damn, this is the most confusing thing I have ever read. After reading it 29434 times I think i have an idea. Its all about heal and toe downshifting though. I use it every single downshift and u cant even feel them.
Originally Posted by trackmagic
Damn, this is the most confusing thing I have ever read. After reading it 29434 times I think i have an idea. Its all about heal and toe downshifting though. I use it every single downshift and u cant even feel them.



