05 Coupe 6MT notchy feel question
I have the sedan 05 MT and it exhibits the same behavior for 1st to 2nd shifts. 2nd gear is very sensitive. Couple this with the high engagement point of the clutch and it makes a smooth transition to 2nd gear quite difficult.
I've had the car about a month and a half and this is the only issue I've found so far. I've been driving manual transmission performance cars for better than 15 years and this car is by far the hardest for me to get used to driving smoothly.
I agree with the poster that said shifts @3.5 to 4 K seem smoother
I've had the car about a month and a half and this is the only issue I've found so far. I've been driving manual transmission performance cars for better than 15 years and this car is by far the hardest for me to get used to driving smoothly.
I agree with the poster that said shifts @3.5 to 4 K seem smoother
Originally Posted by KingTuTG35
what about that odd farting noise that happens when engine is still cold as you shift from 1 to 2.
this is in addition to the clunk.
I kid you not, mine makes brrrr when shifting 1-2 when she's still cold.
mine's an '05 6spd sedan with ~3.5K miles - brrrrp noise has been there since the begining - had I heard it on test drive I probably wouldnt have bought it without doing some serious research first.
also - I agree with the comment earlier about motor and tranny being tuned for higher revs than just loafing around - she gets much smoother reving beyond 3K
this is in addition to the clunk.
I kid you not, mine makes brrrr when shifting 1-2 when she's still cold.
mine's an '05 6spd sedan with ~3.5K miles - brrrrp noise has been there since the begining - had I heard it on test drive I probably wouldnt have bought it without doing some serious research first.
also - I agree with the comment earlier about motor and tranny being tuned for higher revs than just loafing around - she gets much smoother reving beyond 3K
Hey kingtut have you had any luck with getting the resolved at the dealer? I've had no luck as they keep telling me they can't hear or replicate the sound. But I hear it often espeically when the VDC goes off (slip light flashes) or when I'm clutching on a positive gradient. What about you?
hey zoomzoomer - no I have not brought it up to the dealer. It only happens when she's cold as you know.
Am traveling all week, every week, and on the weekend I just want to enjoy driving it. I've become numb to it as she drives fine when driven hard - she's not perfect nor polished by any means so am trying not to worry about it - but would love to know what that noise is.
also - since the car was new I had other problems that were a pain to get resolved - super inconvenience if you will - that required multiple trips to the dealer.
1 - no sound from radio or nav - take to dealer - works fine at dealer - get home stops working the next day - back to dealer - no problem found - yada yada yada about 4 times till they finally decide to replace the amp - voile problem fixed.
2 - door rattle - leave car at dealer - response "what rattle" - that rattle - "oh yes, but we dont hear it"
3 - brake peddle soft - take to dealer as them wtf - why does my brake peddle slowly sink under my foot when I stop - doesnt hold pressure. finally conviced them to bleed the brakes - sure enoungh brake fluid sputtered out meaning there was air - problem fixed
all with like only 400 miles on it. probably spent ~200 just making dealer trips.
anyway - so a 2 second brrrp sound seems like no big deal - so now I just drive and enjoy it - it's not a delicate work of art so am not expecting it to be perfect and due to hassle of 1-3 above - I'd rather not mess with it.
I did do the shade tree mechanic clutch test though that comforted me. here's how.
after you pull into your garage keep your engine running - pull hand brake tight enough so she does not move and put her in 1st (do not touch gas peddle) and partially release the clutch PARTIALLY I said
- dont kill the motor - just let some weight go onto the tranny for a second or two. if it sounds smooth, then she's healthy and fine - if you hear weird noises or inconsistency cracking etc - then something is wrong.
do this in all gears - yes even reverse.
basically engine running put in gear partially release clutch - listen (keep windows open) - any weird noises - no then move on to next gear.
anyway - give it a shot. sorry for all the rambling - hope this helps set your mind at ease - or perhaps confirm the existence of a true problem.
please let me know what you come up with.
thanks
Am traveling all week, every week, and on the weekend I just want to enjoy driving it. I've become numb to it as she drives fine when driven hard - she's not perfect nor polished by any means so am trying not to worry about it - but would love to know what that noise is.
also - since the car was new I had other problems that were a pain to get resolved - super inconvenience if you will - that required multiple trips to the dealer.
1 - no sound from radio or nav - take to dealer - works fine at dealer - get home stops working the next day - back to dealer - no problem found - yada yada yada about 4 times till they finally decide to replace the amp - voile problem fixed.
2 - door rattle - leave car at dealer - response "what rattle" - that rattle - "oh yes, but we dont hear it"
3 - brake peddle soft - take to dealer as them wtf - why does my brake peddle slowly sink under my foot when I stop - doesnt hold pressure. finally conviced them to bleed the brakes - sure enoungh brake fluid sputtered out meaning there was air - problem fixed
all with like only 400 miles on it. probably spent ~200 just making dealer trips.
anyway - so a 2 second brrrp sound seems like no big deal - so now I just drive and enjoy it - it's not a delicate work of art so am not expecting it to be perfect and due to hassle of 1-3 above - I'd rather not mess with it.
I did do the shade tree mechanic clutch test though that comforted me. here's how.
after you pull into your garage keep your engine running - pull hand brake tight enough so she does not move and put her in 1st (do not touch gas peddle) and partially release the clutch PARTIALLY I said
- dont kill the motor - just let some weight go onto the tranny for a second or two. if it sounds smooth, then she's healthy and fine - if you hear weird noises or inconsistency cracking etc - then something is wrong. do this in all gears - yes even reverse.
basically engine running put in gear partially release clutch - listen (keep windows open) - any weird noises - no then move on to next gear.
anyway - give it a shot. sorry for all the rambling - hope this helps set your mind at ease - or perhaps confirm the existence of a true problem.
please let me know what you come up with.
thanks
Hey kingtut,
I'll try the clutch/gear test as soon as I get a chance, but what is this a test of? I'm not familiar with it. Could you clarify? Thanks.
By the way, I've had a simialr experience as you've had. I've got squeek that's been keeping me up at nights. Been to the dealer twice and still not solved. I think it's the magnet on the arm rest, but not completely sure. The next thing is that burrr sound. Like you I've pretty much given up on the dealer finding and resolving that problem. And since it doesn't "seem" to be a detrimental thing I guess I'll leave it be for now. Thanks for info and the advice.
I'll try the clutch/gear test as soon as I get a chance, but what is this a test of? I'm not familiar with it. Could you clarify? Thanks.
By the way, I've had a simialr experience as you've had. I've got squeek that's been keeping me up at nights. Been to the dealer twice and still not solved. I think it's the magnet on the arm rest, but not completely sure. The next thing is that burrr sound. Like you I've pretty much given up on the dealer finding and resolving that problem. And since it doesn't "seem" to be a detrimental thing I guess I'll leave it be for now. Thanks for info and the advice.
I think the general consensus is that: It's Normal.
I have this too. My G is about 4.5 months old and i happens every now and then. I drove it to work today and i didn't have the notchiness. I bet when i take it out tomorrow, it'll have it. My coworker who has the same car, it happens to him too.
I did actually bring this up to the dealer and had the mechanic (a good friend of mine) and he told me nothing was out of the ordinary. He kept the car for two days and couldn't find anything wrong. He also told me a lot of customers bring the car in for that same problem and everytime, they say it's normal. I know that could be taken as the dealership brushoff, but like i said the mechanic is a friend of mine so i know he wouldn't screw me.
I have this too. My G is about 4.5 months old and i happens every now and then. I drove it to work today and i didn't have the notchiness. I bet when i take it out tomorrow, it'll have it. My coworker who has the same car, it happens to him too.
I did actually bring this up to the dealer and had the mechanic (a good friend of mine) and he told me nothing was out of the ordinary. He kept the car for two days and couldn't find anything wrong. He also told me a lot of customers bring the car in for that same problem and everytime, they say it's normal. I know that could be taken as the dealership brushoff, but like i said the mechanic is a friend of mine so i know he wouldn't screw me.
i also have an '06 6mt coupe with the same first-to-second shifting characteristics. i've pretty much come to the conclusion that its normal. at first i thought it was my driving, but i've tried many different techiniques and i get the same clicking sound when i shift. this really sucks when i'm stuck in traffic. i feel like i'm hurting the car and killing the clutch trying to get it shift in smoothly. anyhow, i feel better now that i'm not the only one...
Originally Posted by KingTuTG35
what about that odd farting noise that happens when engine is still cold as you shift from 1 to 2.
this is in addition to the clunk.
I kid you not, mine makes brrrr when shifting 1-2 when she's still cold.
mine's an '05 6spd sedan with ~3.5K miles - brrrrp noise has been there since the begining - had I heard it on test drive I probably wouldnt have bought it without doing some serious research first.
also - I agree with the comment earlier about motor and tranny being tuned for higher revs than just loafing around - she gets much smoother reving beyond 3K
this is in addition to the clunk.
I kid you not, mine makes brrrr when shifting 1-2 when she's still cold.
mine's an '05 6spd sedan with ~3.5K miles - brrrrp noise has been there since the begining - had I heard it on test drive I probably wouldnt have bought it without doing some serious research first.
also - I agree with the comment earlier about motor and tranny being tuned for higher revs than just loafing around - she gets much smoother reving beyond 3K
sorry this is of no help now, but maybe someone else knows what im talking about...
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Originally Posted by Day177017
I think the general consensus is that: It's Normal.
I have this too. My G is about 4.5 months old and i happens every now and then. I drove it to work today and i didn't have the notchiness. I bet when i take it out tomorrow, it'll have it. My coworker who has the same car, it happens to him too.
I did actually bring this up to the dealer and had the mechanic (a good friend of mine) and he told me nothing was out of the ordinary. He kept the car for two days and couldn't find anything wrong. He also told me a lot of customers bring the car in for that same problem and everytime, they say it's normal. I know that could be taken as the dealership brushoff, but like i said the mechanic is a friend of mine so i know he wouldn't screw me.
I have this too. My G is about 4.5 months old and i happens every now and then. I drove it to work today and i didn't have the notchiness. I bet when i take it out tomorrow, it'll have it. My coworker who has the same car, it happens to him too.
I did actually bring this up to the dealer and had the mechanic (a good friend of mine) and he told me nothing was out of the ordinary. He kept the car for two days and couldn't find anything wrong. He also told me a lot of customers bring the car in for that same problem and everytime, they say it's normal. I know that could be taken as the dealership brushoff, but like i said the mechanic is a friend of mine so i know he wouldn't screw me.
Yeap...that's the same for me. Sometimes it's worse a couple days in a row, and sometimes the notchiness is gone all together. I wonder if it has to do with the tranny fluid consistency.
Originally Posted by cloud
Also, does anyone's car do a "thunk"(sounds like dropping the clutch when shifting) when clutching in in gear 1(both moving and coming to a stop)?. It sounds like the clutch is abruptly disengaged or something.
Yes! I thought I was the only one with this problem...
It's especially evident when cold. It's not as "thunky" for me if i depress the clutch fast. (6mt sedan)
Originally Posted by Bluedoor
Does the 'brrrr' sound happen only within the first minutes of driving? I'm pretty sure the G self-tests the ABS/VDC system everytime the car is started within the first minutes of driving.
Originally Posted by zoomzoomers
Hey kingtut,
I'll try the clutch/gear test as soon as I get a chance, but what is this a test of? I'm not familiar with it. Could you clarify? Thanks.
By the way, I've had a simialr experience as you've had. I've got squeek that's been keeping me up at nights. Been to the dealer twice and still not solved. I think it's the magnet on the arm rest, but not completely sure. The next thing is that burrr sound. Like you I've pretty much given up on the dealer finding and resolving that problem. And since it doesn't "seem" to be a detrimental thing I guess I'll leave it be for now. Thanks for info and the advice.
I'll try the clutch/gear test as soon as I get a chance, but what is this a test of? I'm not familiar with it. Could you clarify? Thanks.
By the way, I've had a simialr experience as you've had. I've got squeek that's been keeping me up at nights. Been to the dealer twice and still not solved. I think it's the magnet on the arm rest, but not completely sure. The next thing is that burrr sound. Like you I've pretty much given up on the dealer finding and resolving that problem. And since it doesn't "seem" to be a detrimental thing I guess I'll leave it be for now. Thanks for info and the advice.
Hey man - the objective of the test is to listen, in a quite place like a garage, for squeeling or grinding coming from the clutch as you let off of the peddle the peddle. I aint not mechanic - but I was told that if no such noise exists then you're clutch should be ok - generally.
it's a test only very **** people like us would do

trying to get things fixed:
also - one thing that I learned is that me as a lover of driving, and am sure all of you being in the same boat, we hold our cars to a higher standard and worry about things that impact performance. the general population isnt sensitive to that - and hence we drive our selves crazy trying to get the issue resolved
notchy shifts:
no matter how hard I try I rarely do a smooth 1-2. for a while my GF thought I just sucked at driving a stick and tried to give me pointers - ouch

I have to admit though that she works the clutch in her car very well - you'd think you were in an automatic. And the harder I tried to shift my car more smoothly from 1-2 the more she thought I sucked at it.
I was only able to shut her up when I finally let her drive it.
Last edited by KingTuTG35; Jan 20, 2006 at 09:15 PM.


