Clunking Noise While Idling
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Possible answer to the rattle everyone experiences?
Originally Posted by 05Scoobyroo
I heard the same thing from day one with the car. The dealer could not replicate it, but I can everyday. I think its normal, but just magnified due to the higher-flowing than normal exhaust system.
The flywheel in the G is a double mass flywheel. However, after doing a little research I came across this article where the author describes exactly what we all experience (see below)
The issue with gear rattle is that conventional lightweight flywheels retain the car's original solid-hub clutch disk. First, the lightened flywheel has less mass to damp the power pulse variations. Second, there is no mechanism within the solid-hub clutch disk to absorb the power pulse variations. The result is that a conventional lightweight flywheel with solid-hub clutch may create a noticeable amount of rattle. There is simply no cushioning action at all. Note that this gear rattle only occurs at idle, in neutral, with the clutch let out. It is not heard at any other time. Above idle (even just a couple hundred rpm) and the increased frequency of power pulses outpaces the speed at which the components couple/de-couple, therefore no rattle whatsoever.
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/flywheel/gear_rattle.htm
The above is a bit more explanation than the typical service manager's assurance "it's normal". Hopefully this helps calm some nerves!
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I think it just idles funny. I initially thought it was the flywheel as well but when I step on the clutch the tranny clunk goes away. However, you still feel the engine shudder at the same intervals as before. After I installed my new exhaust I really hear it now. But it's normal. I was at a small meet with 2 G's and 2 Z's. All the cars were doing it.
whew.... as long as it's not just me... lol
whew.... as long as it's not just me... lol
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I think you guys are confusing the flywheel rattle with the clunk the engine makes whaile idling. Ex. While sitting in idle place your hand on the shifter, keep it there for about 20 -30 seconds and you will feel clunk. Thats what mine does! I have asked arround but so far no one seems to think this is a problem..... though it sounds like missfire/knock... i am confussed!
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Originally Posted by vasqo
I think you guys are confusing the flywheel rattle with the clunk the engine makes whaile idling. Ex. While sitting in idle place your hand on the shifter, keep it there for about 20 -30 seconds and you will feel clunk. Thats what mine does! I have asked arround but so far no one seems to think this is a problem..... though it sounds like missfire/knock... i am confussed!
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Originally Posted by vasqo
I think you guys are confusing the flywheel rattle with the clunk the engine makes whaile idling. Ex. While sitting in idle place your hand on the shifter, keep it there for about 20 -30 seconds and you will feel clunk. Thats what mine does! I have asked arround but so far no one seems to think this is a problem..... though it sounds like missfire/knock... i am confussed!
That was when I took my shoe off and beat him repeatedly on the head.
No seriously though, I think it is just the car and we can't do anything about it, except to jump ship.
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same here! after extended driving 20+miles, at idle only, it sounds, and feels like there is a cylinder misfire. and when this happens sometimes, not always but sometimes, it sounds like it misses so bad that it rattles the throw out bearing. much like the noise that the throw out bearing makes when you turn the car off and your foot is off the clutch. which has also been deemed ''normal for our cars''. 04 6mt 42k miles only engine mod is stillen hfab, always run shell 92 vpower. i have concluded that this is not a traditional missfire. as if it were the service engine soon light would be on with the quickness. but it is definatley WEIRD. i think its obvious that its not a prelude to a major breakdown or anything seeing as how almost all of us experience this without any larger issues. but id still like to know the who,what,when,where's and why's of the situation. id take it to the dealer but i already know what they are going to say....
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