Widest / Most Aggressive wheels on a sedan?
Originally Posted by god of smog
+55 is beyond conservative.
this thread is about aggressive setups.
this thread is about aggressive setups.
The rolled look was all the craze back in the 80's with the mini truck crowd. A buddy of mine had a similar setup with a 195 tire on an 8" wheel. One day he was driving a bit aggro and ended up poping the bead. The rim dug into the pavement and he ended up spinning into a fence and totalling his truck.
Going with a 15mm offset is going to put the wheel way outside of the fender. If you like that lowrider wheel look then to each their own but don't criticize someone for having a conservative offset that keeps the tires legally inside the wheel wells.
Originally Posted by Chico
...Rear 10" rim with 275/30 tire, offset +25
Originally Posted by sliderg35
DANGER DANGER - I think you must be talkking about a coupe here right? Even with a narrow tire, I don't think you can go less than about +35 on the rear without sticking out on a sedan. I had a fitment chart a while ago, and I seem to remember that... Please correct me if I am wrong.
Originally Posted by shodog
Or is this thread for stupid dangerous setups?
Originally Posted by Chico
Yes you are wrong. We're talking about "extreme" fitment here, which require heavy modification to fit properly. The VIP look he's seeking will bring the wheels outside the fenders. This is very common in Japan. The offset is not ideal for the everyday driver which would need a +45 on a 9.5" or 10" wheel in the rear to clear the fenders.
Originally Posted by god of smog
no, just an example of more "extreme" fitment
Originally Posted by skeleton_cru
I wasn't talking about the fitment of the wheels, I was commenting on the overall look of the car. Remember, you're driving a G35 now, not a 240sx.
the only thing i do like is the fitment of the wheels.
Wrong and wrong. There is a GOOD reason tire makers have specified wheel widths on their technical sections of their sites.
Stretching is just fad. Nothing else. Like most fads, they really have no logical reason to them other than looks.
Look at drifting. Just another fad. IMHO, making the rear end slide happy is both dangerous and foolish at the same time.
Stretching is just fad. Nothing else. Like most fads, they really have no logical reason to them other than looks.
Look at drifting. Just another fad. IMHO, making the rear end slide happy is both dangerous and foolish at the same time.
Originally Posted by god of smog
There's nothing dangerous or stupid about stretching tires... i've been doing it for years and never had a problem... if you're worried about popping beads, dont use cheap tires.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Wrong and wrong. There is a GOOD reason tire makers have specified wheel widths on their technical sections of their sites.
Stretching is just fad. Nothing else. Like most fads, they really have no logical reason to them other than looks.
Look at drifting. Just another fad. IMHO, making the rear end slide happy is both dangerous and foolish at the same time.
Stretching is just fad. Nothing else. Like most fads, they really have no logical reason to them other than looks.
Look at drifting. Just another fad. IMHO, making the rear end slide happy is both dangerous and foolish at the same time.
Stretching has it's advantages - namely stiffer sidewall and in return, sharper response from the tire. It also has it's application here when trying to fit ultra wide wheels under the fender, where the stretched tire provides more clearance.
Your comments about drifting and "slide happy" rear ends solidifies your ignorance. Drifting is the fastest growing motorsport in North America. Oversteer is only bad for those who can't handle their vehicles.
Again, the aim of this thread is to identify the widest and most aggressive setup possible on a g35 sedan. Obviously, this setup is one that I havent seen here, and one that is going to take a more "hard core" driver to utilize. It's going to involve modification of the fenders (pulling / rolling), stretching of tires, lowering and utilization of negative camber. This isnt for everyone, especially the 16 year old kids with no clue on this board.
If anyone has any additional input, i'd like to keep this thread going.
Staying within the tire maker's specifications = fine. Stretching just to fit the widest wheel/tire under a fender = unwise. Especially if it's beyond the tire's specfication.
Just because the sport is growing, doesn't mean making an easily oversteering car a good thing. Exactly why would I even want to "handle" an oversteering car, when I can just handle a neutral car? I don't get the logic.
If oversteer is the objective, why are you putting the fattest wheel/tire on the rear anyway? That promotes understeer.
NASCAR is one of the most popular motosport in the USA right now. But I'm not out there staggering my tire size (left/right) to make the car turn left any easier.
Just because the sport is growing, doesn't mean making an easily oversteering car a good thing. Exactly why would I even want to "handle" an oversteering car, when I can just handle a neutral car? I don't get the logic.
If oversteer is the objective, why are you putting the fattest wheel/tire on the rear anyway? That promotes understeer.
NASCAR is one of the most popular motosport in the USA right now. But I'm not out there staggering my tire size (left/right) to make the car turn left any easier.
Originally Posted by god of smog
Some manufacturers (Falken, for example) specify tire sizes and associated wheel widths that would be considered "stretched" in their fitment guides. Granted, something like a 205 section width tire on a 9" wheel is beyond those acceptable sizes, but that's above and beyond the level of "stretch" i'm willing to utilize.
Stretching has it's advantages - namely stiffer sidewall and in return, sharper response from the tire. It also has it's application here when trying to fit ultra wide wheels under the fender, where the stretched tire provides more clearance.
Your comments about drifting and "slide happy" rear ends solidifies your ignorance. Drifting is the fastest growing motorsport in North America. Oversteer is only bad for those who can't handle their vehicles.
Again, the aim of this thread is to identify the widest and most aggressive setup possible on a g35 sedan. Obviously, this setup is one that I havent seen here, and one that is going to take a more "hard core" driver to utilize. It's going to involve modification of the fenders (pulling / rolling), stretching of tires, lowering and utilization of negative camber. This isnt for everyone, especially the 16 year old kids with no clue on this board.
If anyone has any additional input, i'd like to keep this thread going.
Stretching has it's advantages - namely stiffer sidewall and in return, sharper response from the tire. It also has it's application here when trying to fit ultra wide wheels under the fender, where the stretched tire provides more clearance.
Your comments about drifting and "slide happy" rear ends solidifies your ignorance. Drifting is the fastest growing motorsport in North America. Oversteer is only bad for those who can't handle their vehicles.
Again, the aim of this thread is to identify the widest and most aggressive setup possible on a g35 sedan. Obviously, this setup is one that I havent seen here, and one that is going to take a more "hard core" driver to utilize. It's going to involve modification of the fenders (pulling / rolling), stretching of tires, lowering and utilization of negative camber. This isnt for everyone, especially the 16 year old kids with no clue on this board.
If anyone has any additional input, i'd like to keep this thread going.
The widest rim I've seen fitted on a sedan is a 10" rim out back.
6mtpnut's car:
PICS
Lexion Type 203 19x9 Front
Lexion Type 203 19x10 Rear
Dunlop 235/35/19 Front
Dunlop 265/30/19 Rear
Sidenote, the whole drift scene is seems soo gay to me now. When I was in highscool it was cool and all to see those cars sliding around. But now I can't seem to stand it as much anymore. I always found it funny how all those "import tuner" guys though it was the ****, but called anything that wasn't on their cars rice...
6mtpnut's car:
PICS
Lexion Type 203 19x9 Front
Lexion Type 203 19x10 Rear
Dunlop 235/35/19 Front
Dunlop 265/30/19 Rear
Sidenote, the whole drift scene is seems soo gay to me now. When I was in highscool it was cool and all to see those cars sliding around. But now I can't seem to stand it as much anymore. I always found it funny how all those "import tuner" guys though it was the ****, but called anything that wasn't on their cars rice...




