Cheated by dealer doing Trans Flush
#17
They SHOULD know. They are the ones with the database covering all the vins and they should know what their own products have/don't have. Exactly why should the customer have to pay for the dealer's ignorance?
Originally Posted by g35rcr
well if they didnt know, they still had to pull apart the trans based on your statement and authorization for the work so you are liable for the charges
#19
Originally Posted by filanj
What dealership. I wouldn't be surprised if it is Holman of Maple Shade. They always lie about anything they can. I've caught them lying to me every time I've gone in.
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Originally Posted by jimmyc13
How do you know you need a flush soon? Every time I've gone to the dealer & ask about that, they tell me they'll check the color of the fluid, and if it's clean, then I don't need it done. I'm going to get a 60K service soon, and they told me the flush isn't part of the service, but they will check it for me
If you don't plan on keeping car a long time I have heard to wait until 60K or to not do it at all.
I also want to do the differential fluid too for the same reason.
Also, see below
Last edited by Texan1; 02-09-2007 at 07:41 PM.
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Also:
some of my considerations:
Automatic: Service intervals for an automatic transmission vary from every 30,000 miles . . . to never. The typical service interval is 60,000 to 100,000 miles(but who wants to be typical ) .Synonyms 1. normal, average, stock, usual Changing it more often does no harm. But will be of benefit.
Why do I have to do this?
Manual: In a manual transmission, the problem is not so much the fluid degradation, but rather fluid contamination. This contamination occurs over time as the synchronizers, bearings and gears in the transmission wear out. The resulting metal particles then float around in the lubricant. And we all know that oil with microscopic particles of metal in it does not lubricate as well as clean oil. So if these contaminants are not drained out, they will shorten the life of your transmission.
Automatic: Because more heat is generated in an automatic transmission, automatic transmission fluid actually degrades and breaks down with use.In addition, like in a manual transmission, automatic transmission fluid will also become contaminated with worn bits of the transmission. If these contaminants are not drained out, they will shorten the life of your transmission.
If you don’t change the oil on schedule, you’ll be lubricating your transmission with metal shavings and other contaminants. This will shorten the transmission’s life. Few manual gearboxes have a dipstick. Mechanics must stick a finger in the level-check hole.
some of my considerations:
Automatic: Service intervals for an automatic transmission vary from every 30,000 miles . . . to never. The typical service interval is 60,000 to 100,000 miles(but who wants to be typical ) .Synonyms 1. normal, average, stock, usual Changing it more often does no harm. But will be of benefit.
Why do I have to do this?
Manual: In a manual transmission, the problem is not so much the fluid degradation, but rather fluid contamination. This contamination occurs over time as the synchronizers, bearings and gears in the transmission wear out. The resulting metal particles then float around in the lubricant. And we all know that oil with microscopic particles of metal in it does not lubricate as well as clean oil. So if these contaminants are not drained out, they will shorten the life of your transmission.
Automatic: Because more heat is generated in an automatic transmission, automatic transmission fluid actually degrades and breaks down with use.In addition, like in a manual transmission, automatic transmission fluid will also become contaminated with worn bits of the transmission. If these contaminants are not drained out, they will shorten the life of your transmission.
If you don’t change the oil on schedule, you’ll be lubricating your transmission with metal shavings and other contaminants. This will shorten the transmission’s life. Few manual gearboxes have a dipstick. Mechanics must stick a finger in the level-check hole.
Last edited by Texan1; 02-09-2007 at 07:51 PM.
#22
IMHO with autos, Infininti recommends inspections because the change interval greatly depends on the way the user drives. If you drive like a granny and the fluid appears nice and red, it's probably okay. If you drive like your wife is preggo, then you will be generating tons of heat that degrades the fluid quickly. The fluid will smell burnt and will be a darker red?
Although personally, I'd do a drain/fill every 20-30k, there's a chance that one could beat up the fluid in 15k and need a total flush.
Although personally, I'd do a drain/fill every 20-30k, there's a chance that one could beat up the fluid in 15k and need a total flush.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
IMHO with autos, Infininti recommends inspections because the change interval greatly depends on the way the user drives. If you drive like a granny and the fluid appears nice and red, it's probably okay. If you drive like your wife is preggo, then you will be generating tons of heat that degrades the fluid quickly. The fluid will smell burnt and will be a darker red?
Although personally, I'd do a drain/fill every 20-30k, there's a chance that one could beat up the fluid in 15k and need a total flush.
Although personally, I'd do a drain/fill every 20-30k, there's a chance that one could beat up the fluid in 15k and need a total flush.
#24
Can't agrue that. Totally agree. Even with the expensive price for the Nissan J-Matic, changing/flushing the fluid is alot cheaper than auto rebuilds
Originally Posted by Texan1
don't forget climate.....think about a summer in Houston outside is 105 degrees, How hot would the ATF get? 200 degrees And if its not as viscous and dirty, it won't dissipate heat very well either.
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