Gas Octane decision
Originally Posted by DaveB
Feel free to keep running your mouth about how fast you think your car is though

Dave - when I post 271 HP you poo poo the dyno... however you conveniently use the worst tracks in the nations (ours) as your feeble attempt to heighten yourself... as for not knowing what my car has - well that’s funny you always have poo pood most of the mods that have been discussed... I'm not going into all the things my car has - let me just put it to you this way... no G or Z that is N/A has beat my sedan on the track or in spirited safe (open road) street run... I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that your car would lose worse than the majority I've come across...
And no, 3.7 FD is not all I have
There has been much more than that for quite a long time…. it's surprising you don’t know this since it has been discussed in many threads – and historically you have downplayed many mods… I don’t know why you say you haven’t – many of us that have been on this forum for a long time (some that don’t bother with you anymore) know all about the hypocritical stuff you pull….As far as me not posting in 1/4 best times... like I said, you will not find ANY decent times on the tracks I run… It’s funny how you search for times posted but don’t come across videos… You’re solo 14.3 ET is really nothing to boast about – especially considering the tracks you have access to have very favorable conditions (comparative to the ones I’ve been on)
The reason I stated I like smokin’ cars like yours – is because you often make comments like you did – the 3.7 isn’t doing much for your mileage… you’ve said things like that about other mods too (not just to me, I’ve seen you say similar things to others)… the fact is I have ZERO concern for gas mileage… everything (well most everything) I have done to the car is to make it faster… thus the statement I made.
You can keep hiding behind your forum talk – but as far as the capabilities of my car – there are several that know what it can – and it’s not because they read cr@p out here… they have driven it or raced against it. Are you able to honestly say any of this?
By way – I NEVER say this to anyone else… I have never called out the ones I’ve beaten or mentioned it in any way… I don’t need to. I only do this with you DaveB because of the comments you make.
Edit: actually after thinking about it - I remembered WaLLy beat me once at Irwindale (1/8 mile)... very nice Wally!!!! (didn't want to shun you bro
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Last edited by OCG35; Aug 20, 2007 at 10:33 PM.
Originally Posted by OCG35
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As far as me not posting in 1/4 best times... like I said, you will not find ANY decent times on the tracks I run… It’s funny how you search for times posted but don’t come across videos… You’re solo 14.3 ET is really nothing to boast about – especially considering the tracks you have access to have very favorable conditions (comparative to the ones I’ve been on)
As far as me not posting in 1/4 best times... like I said, you will not find ANY decent times on the tracks I run… It’s funny how you search for times posted but don’t come across videos… You’re solo 14.3 ET is really nothing to boast about – especially considering the tracks you have access to have very favorable conditions (comparative to the ones I’ve been on)
As for the 14.6 that you have no idea where I got it from, that's interesting because you just ran it a few weeks ago. It's the quickest documented run I could find for you because everything else that turned up was 14.7 or greater.
14.6 high for me... ran as I do on the street (no NOS, no DRs)...
… the fact is I have ZERO concern for gas mileage… everything (well most everything) I have done to the car is to make it faster… thus the statement I made.
Last edited by DaveB; Aug 20, 2007 at 11:47 PM.
Originally Posted by DaveB
Cry me a river and the exact response I was expecting. Guess what? I'm not your keeper and I'm not going to search every post that comes up with "OCG35" and "1/4 mile". My track sits at 1100' and conditions aren't always favorable to racing. In 1/4 mile drag section we takes things into consideration like density altitude which levels the playing field. Also, my car has done four 14.3s which is hardly a "solo" 14.3.
That's fine, but don't come into this thread and tell us it's absolutely impossible that some of us can get far better mpgs than yourself.
That's fine, but don't come into this thread and tell us it's absolutely impossible that some of us can get far better mpgs than yourself.
Bark all you want about racing Dave - I absolutely am confidant that my car will beat you. I've said it every since you began stating that mods do nothing years ago... When I had the time and resources available I offered to come towards your area and meet somewhere to race… You never took the challenge. I truly hope to have the time again, because I would nothing more than to end this bs with you once and for all.
My car will absolutely smoke yours. Period.
Originally Posted by OCG35
I will admit that in this thread many people have mentioned that 400 per tank happens... however, most (if not all) the previous threads I've read about gas mileage showed nothing but low miles... granted I haven’t looked at gas mileage threads in quite some time so newer cars are probably seeing much better mpg - AND, like you I am AT, which I still doubt people are seeing 400 per tank full unless running bone dry (AT that is).
Bark all you want about racing Dave - I absolutely am confidant that my car will beat you. I've said it every since you began stating that mods do nothing years ago... When I had the time and resources available I offered to come towards your area and meet somewhere to race… You never took the challenge. I truly hope to have the time again, because I would nothing more than to end this bs with you once and for all.
My car will absolutely smoke yours. Period.
My car will absolutely smoke yours. Period.
Originally Posted by DaveB
Doubt all you want. I know how to do math. 400-480 miles divided by 16-16.5s gallons equals 25-29mpgs. My car and handful of others see the same thing.
You need to get it out of your head that I care about how fast your car is. I never once said my G35 would beat yours and I really could care less. And I'm sure as hell never going to drive over 50 miles to race someone to stroke their ego. Does it not sound a bit childish to you at all? If you're in Kansas City, then I'll race you at KCIR otherwise get over it
You need to get it out of your head that I care about how fast your car is. I never once said my G35 would beat yours and I really could care less. And I'm sure as hell never going to drive over 50 miles to race someone to stroke their ego. Does it not sound a bit childish to you at all? If you're in Kansas City, then I'll race you at KCIR otherwise get over it

Very convenient for you to step around the history and true facts about where this comes from Dave. Just because you want to shed a bogus light to those that don’t know about the anti-mod history you have...
To all that are unfamiliar with the history behind this... Take my advise - do as much research as you can before you apply DaveB’s suggestions... there are many people that know what I am referring to and do concur.
Dave - continue to blather you're nonsense... I'm done with the foolishness with you. Oh, BTW - I completely call BS on your AT getting 25-29mpg (give me a break
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Last edited by OCG35; Aug 21, 2007 at 01:05 AM.
Originally Posted by OCG35
I still doubt people are seeing 400 per tank full unless running bone dry (AT that is).
why do you think so many people got fed up when they did testing and had real world driving impressions and you would come out with your bs about things not working in theory
why do you think so many people got fed up when they did testing and had real world driving impressions and you would come out with your bs about things not working in theory
Also on a side note how does the 3.7 feel after you've had a chance to get used to it? Any drawbacks besides the gas? I'm totally willing to sacrifice some top end and mileage for more low end torqueiness, so this might be the big winter project this year.
Originally Posted by RJsd7
hmm, 25-29mpg is quite high tho.
I think the reasons people see such crappy mpgs in these cars is because one or more of the following reasons:
1) Mods, especially exhaust mods. For whatever reason, adding things like true dual exhaust and test pipes/HFCs seem to make these cars run really rich under part-throttle driving. When I had a Borla TD, my in town MPGs went from 20 to 14. Same driving style too. Getting 230 miles on 16 gallons was insane.
2) Wheels and tires. Larger, heavier, and/or wider wheels and tires will kill mpgs.
3) Frisky driving, especially in a 6MT. Once you take the rpms over 2800, your mpgs are going to suffer, especially around town.
4) Short distance driving on a cold engine. If you make a lot of sub 5 mile trips on a relatively cold engine, you should expect your mpgs to be dismal. A hot engine is an efficent engine. A cold VQ35, especially in the winter, could be getting as bad as 8mpgs during it's first 1 to 2 miles of driving prior to full warm up. If all you're doing is a lot of 1 to 5 mile trips, your mpgs will be dismal. It wouldn't be surprising to see 12-14mpg in this type of driving.
5) Drivetrain loss. The 5AT cars have a relatively high stall TC. It's great for performance, but not so great for city mpgs. The X cars have a lot of rotational weight and drag thanks to two additional half shafts, a transfer case, and an additional driveshaft. Even when the system isn't spliting the torque, there is still a large loss from spinning all that mass.
i get 400+ miles all the time.. i do about 90% highway.. getting 24.6 mpg according to the NAV info.. i think pumping 93 octane will fair even better..
i wouldn't pump 87 in my car.. to prevent knocking~
i wouldn't pump 87 in my car.. to prevent knocking~
Originally Posted by Castro
Also on a side note how does the 3.7 feel after you've had a chance to get used to it? Any drawbacks besides the gas? I'm totally willing to sacrifice some top end and mileage for more low end torqueiness, so this might be the big winter project this year.
Last edited by OCG35; Aug 21, 2007 at 08:15 PM.
I don't have the trip computer so I don't know the exact MPG but I drove from Ft. Bliss Texas to Southern Cali. with one fill up in between and had 1/4 tank left when I got home. Yahoo maps is telling me its just under 900 miles to my house, granted it was all freeway driving I had the cruise set to 75mph. I do think its possible with the right driving style, on average I get around 21-22 MPG mixed driving normally. Oh and I use 91 octane, only mods I have are coupe mid, K&N, z-tube, coupe springs, and new rims.


