I've been looking (I shouldn't since I have an 07 GTI) for a more luxurious car and was pretty definite on a 04+ TL, just because they're so nice inside and I like the exterior styling (more so than a G, don't be mad), but they are sluggish compared to G's and my current GTI.

Anyways, so I found an ideal car and am going to go test drive it tomorrow and see how much haggling room there is, plus see how much on trade I can possibly get mine for...

Here's the details and please tell me anything I should look out for (problems with 05's aside from the finicky 6-Speeds) and also if the price sounds right...

2005 Black on Black w/ Premium Package (appears so from the pictures, has sunroof as minimum)

6-Speed
41,000 Miles
Looks to be in good condition...

The price right now is $22,499 and is being sold from a Suzuki Dealership (not sure why Suzuki has it, but I'll ask and hopefully get an answer).

So what do you think?

It was probably a trade in. 22k seems like a pretty fair price even though the mileage is pretty hi. You might be able to get them down another 1,500-2,000$.

Let use know the out come.

The price is not bad. Definitely negotiate with them, you should be able to talk them down a bit.

^ +1
BIG BUMP for the 05s !!!!!

I say do it... cause I traded my TL in for a 03.5 6Speed sedan.. Im in love with it! and I picked it up for $20 with 38,000miles.

I would say if you like the TL's interior and looks better you are making a mistake by getting a G. You can do a few mods to make the TL faster.

Where are you located? If you are in a state where it is snowing I would say you could easily get some more off the price due to RWD cars not selling that well right now.

Jake

Well I checked out the car and the body and overall shape of the car weren't that great. I'd say a good 5 or 6 scratches on the body that were at least 1 foot in length, not too deep, but not pretty. Secondly, there was RUST right above the fuel door, which means the idiot beforehand most likely smashed a gas pump into the car and obviously the repair would be costly.

They went down to $21,250, but I think I'm going to stick with my car now so I don't lose too much. Just got to stop looking for cars and be content with what I have (I can say that my car is quicker, I was expecting a little more from the G).

The car overall is great and will definitely be something I consider down the road...thanks everyone!

Don't do it, the transmission is crap on these cars. Mines horribly notchy. I drove a BMW 3 series with equivalent miles and the transmission was easily 10x smoother.

BUMP it down to 20-21=]

Hmm...found one about 300 miles away.

05 Black on Black 6MT...Private Party.

28K Miles, Premium, No Nav

Asking $20,700 and would go to $20,000 "lowest" over the phone, so maybe I can get the seller down to $19,500.

What do you think?

^go for it! that is after you check out the carfax and you feel the condition of the car is good.

^ +1. You could probably turn it around and make a little bit of money off the G as well

So I'm getting that the above price is a really good deal?

Aside from the transmission hassles...any other issues to worry about?

I'll definitely need to get a set of dedicated snows for the winter (I'm assuming I can go 17"s right?), what else is considered a necessity when it comes to mods as well? From the sound of it most mods other than F/I do very little.

^yep it seems like a good deal pending the condition of the car. I wouldn't worry too much about the tranny issues, but aside that

I know the 05+ 6MTs had oil consumption problems (but thats for the coupe, i dont know if the rev-ups were also put in sedans )