Snapped Bolt! What to DO!?
EDIT: Bad Math Alert. It should read "That's barely 8 ft. lbs."
Last edited by BuckeyeInMI; Jun 28, 2009 at 06:30 PM. Reason: Forgot difference between inches and ounces
nope. It's a 6mm thread. divide 100 inlbs by 12 and you'll get footlbs. That's about 8.3ftlbs. 8.3ftlbs is perfectly fine for a healthy 6mm thread bolt. 104 inlbs is actually what i torque cam caps on 4 stroke dirtbikes down to. Same size and thread bolts and they are going into aluminum just like these are.
nope. It's a 6mm thread. divide 100 inlbs by 12 and you'll get footlbs. That's about 8.3ftlbs. 8.3ftlbs is perfectly fine for a healthy 6mm thread bolt. 104 inlbs is actually what i torque cam caps on 4 stroke dirtbikes down to. Same size and thread bolts and they are going into aluminum just like these are.

Thanks for the correction.
well i got the lower plenum off again and yes the bolt is sticking up out of the lower plenum
bad news is that the 2 nut trick wont work because there isnt enough thread on the screw
looks like i might have to file down the sides and try to remove it with some pliars. tried to do it without filing the sides but cant get a good enough grip.
time running out... need to go to work. public transport it is today i think
bad news is that the 2 nut trick wont work because there isnt enough thread on the screw
looks like i might have to file down the sides and try to remove it with some pliars. tried to do it without filing the sides but cant get a good enough grip.
time running out... need to go to work. public transport it is today i think
ok tried the vice grips, and they worked. got the bolt out replaced it with the one from the guide pin. all sweet.
now i must be the unluckiest guy, or maybe the bolts have been weakened from the previous time i tightened them up.......
put the lower plenum back on bolt no. 1 snapped this time. not even at 40 inch/lbs tourque. it snapped cleaned. pulled the lower plenum back out and managed to just get it out again the same method as before. now i need to go to nissan and re order these ****ing bolts. i need to get all 6 again as i fear they may be very weak. im even going to change number 7 over incase it was previously stressed.
:/
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh now im late for work.
now i must be the unluckiest guy, or maybe the bolts have been weakened from the previous time i tightened them up.......
put the lower plenum back on bolt no. 1 snapped this time. not even at 40 inch/lbs tourque. it snapped cleaned. pulled the lower plenum back out and managed to just get it out again the same method as before. now i need to go to nissan and re order these ****ing bolts. i need to get all 6 again as i fear they may be very weak. im even going to change number 7 over incase it was previously stressed.
:/
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh now im late for work.
BE VERY CAREFUL if you're going to hand tighten them! You can easily exceed 100 inch pounds with hand tools. That isn't very much force. The instructions have a section on tightening by hand.
Mark, there's got to be something else going on. Those bolts shouldn't be breaking at 100 in. lbs. They can take FAR more stress than that. The reason it's only 100 in. lbs. is because the aluminum of the plenum can't take the extra stress. You can warp it enough to prevent a good seal or possibly strip out the threads.
Are you tightening per the directions, i.e. in stages? All the bolts to 40, then 80, then 100? If you did one bolt up to 100, I could see the other bolt holes getting slightly misaligned and causing extra stress, but you seem pretty careful, so I kinda doubt that happened. The only other thing I can think of is the torque wrench you have is badly out of spec. Unfortunately there's no real way to recalibrate it at home. I'd suggest either borrowing a known good one, or buying a new one.
Mark, there's got to be something else going on. Those bolts shouldn't be breaking at 100 in. lbs. They can take FAR more stress than that. The reason it's only 100 in. lbs. is because the aluminum of the plenum can't take the extra stress. You can warp it enough to prevent a good seal or possibly strip out the threads.
Are you tightening per the directions, i.e. in stages? All the bolts to 40, then 80, then 100? If you did one bolt up to 100, I could see the other bolt holes getting slightly misaligned and causing extra stress, but you seem pretty careful, so I kinda doubt that happened. The only other thing I can think of is the torque wrench you have is badly out of spec. Unfortunately there's no real way to recalibrate it at home. I'd suggest either borrowing a known good one, or buying a new one.
yeh i did do them up to 40, 80 then 100
i think the tourque wrench is just stuffed?
i will do them by hand, and not even put that much force the 2nd time around.
screw tourque wrenches im gonna return it and get my $130 bucks back.
i have to wait 10 days for these replacement nuts to come from nissan japan... everyone in nissan australia is out of stock (figures, just my luck)
oh well.... i think i take the record for longest ever motordyne plenum installation. 2 weeks.
i think the tourque wrench is just stuffed?
i will do them by hand, and not even put that much force the 2nd time around.
screw tourque wrenches im gonna return it and get my $130 bucks back.
i have to wait 10 days for these replacement nuts to come from nissan japan... everyone in nissan australia is out of stock (figures, just my luck)
oh well.... i think i take the record for longest ever motordyne plenum installation. 2 weeks.
ok tried the vice grips, and they worked. got the bolt out replaced it with the one from the guide pin. all sweet.
now i must be the unluckiest guy, or maybe the bolts have been weakened from the previous time i tightened them up.......
put the lower plenum back on bolt no. 1 snapped this time. not even at 40 inch/lbs tourque. it snapped cleaned. pulled the lower plenum back out and managed to just get it out again the same method as before. now i need to go to nissan and re order these ****ing bolts. i need to get all 6 again as i fear they may be very weak. im even going to change number 7 over incase it was previously stressed.
:/
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh now im late for work.
now i must be the unluckiest guy, or maybe the bolts have been weakened from the previous time i tightened them up.......
put the lower plenum back on bolt no. 1 snapped this time. not even at 40 inch/lbs tourque. it snapped cleaned. pulled the lower plenum back out and managed to just get it out again the same method as before. now i need to go to nissan and re order these ****ing bolts. i need to get all 6 again as i fear they may be very weak. im even going to change number 7 over incase it was previously stressed.
:/
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh now im late for work.
Bad thing is you keep breaking more
so I would definitely do it by hand and order extras just
for future mishaps.
Look at it this way as long as you didn't drop a bolt into the block
you good. Think positive
yeh i did do them up to 40, 80 then 100
i think the tourque wrench is just stuffed?
i will do them by hand, and not even put that much force the 2nd time around.
screw tourque wrenches im gonna return it and get my $130 bucks back.
i have to wait 10 days for these replacement nuts to come from nissan japan... everyone in nissan australia is out of stock (figures, just my luck)
oh well.... i think i take the record for longest ever motordyne plenum installation. 2 weeks.
i think the tourque wrench is just stuffed?
i will do them by hand, and not even put that much force the 2nd time around.
screw tourque wrenches im gonna return it and get my $130 bucks back.
i have to wait 10 days for these replacement nuts to come from nissan japan... everyone in nissan australia is out of stock (figures, just my luck)
oh well.... i think i take the record for longest ever motordyne plenum installation. 2 weeks.



